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Chewie, there used to be a link on the main page for roll call. not there any longer had a hard time finding it and it appears others are too since there are many less people posting on it than there used to be.
Fixed. Thanks man.
Way to go Elkslayer! also love that verse, here is one for you! Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.
On my 4th day after 10 years of chew…the reason I quit is for my 1 year old son…it’s very difficult but I’m trying
Way to go Steve – that’s an outstanding reason to be a quitter!
elk slayer, do you hunt?
Is it just me or is biting in to a Blackberry like an orgasm. I think my taste is back. 34 days down.
Day 8. I’m trying. It’s good to see everyone here is with me. I feel crazy sometimes but I am so ready to be done. Keep up the good work everyone.
Day 18 I’m right here Kevin and I’m quit all day with you. I posted a little later today to see if anyone even noticed that I was posting everyday. I now see that at least one person is noticing. Glad to be quit I hate that shit. Stay strong Kevin were in it for the long haul
Serious question… if no one had noticed, would it have adversely affected your quit? I sincerely hope not.
While the concept of brotherhood is certainly one of our building blocks, the concept of accountability is right there as well. Not only accountability to one another, but accountability to yourself. Proud to be quit with you today.
Wouldn’t have affected my quit not this time I finally hate that shit. Thank you for your support and being proud to be quit with me that means a lot.
Chewie, or anyone who can help me: I’ve been dipping skoal original fine cut wintergreen for 4 years now, leaving for Navy boot camp in a few months and need to quit. I’ve tried several kinds of fake chew to help but I simply can’t tolerate the texture of long cut, whether tobacco or herbal snuff. Is there any product out there you know of that replicates fine cut snuff out there?
Hey Brandon – yes, there are several.
Couple of questions. First… what have you tried and not liked? Second, what flavor are you looking for? Happy to help point you in the right direction.
I’ve only tried the Smokey Mountain stuff, I didn’t mind the flavor, it was the “long cut” texture I couldn’t tolerate. Flavor wise I don’t care as long as it doesn’t taste bad, as long as the texture resembles fine cut more it’ll be perfect.
Give the Hooch products a try (but not the Rough Cut variety). They’ve got some outstanding flavors (mint and wintergreen are two of my favs) and they definitely are NOT a long cut product
https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/hooch-snuff-reviews/
Will be interested to hear what you think.
Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll order some when I get my next paycheck and let you know how it turns out, if I don’t like these I’ll probably just go back to dipping Maxwell House
Brandon, get the Hooch sample pack, super cheap & they have like 7 different flavors, Key Lime being there newest & my favorite. They have a Rough & Fine cut. Check them out, well worth it.
Sorry Chewie, I missed you already answered Brandon’s question.
No worries bro – always enjoy your input!
Where did elkslayer go? 18 days quit for me today as well. Pretty busy, stressful work week makes for temptation. I’m going to have to head straight to the dentist after all these mint lifesavers.
Hang in there, Kevin. All that stress and temptation will pass. Just weather the storm. 107 days quit today. If I can do it…
I’m right here with ya quit all day on day 18. Thanks for noticing that I’m posting everyday. Posted later than normal because I want to see if anyone noticed I was missing and someone did thanks man means a ton
Day 192. Ezekiel 23:19-20 (NIV) “Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.”
“The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.” – Thomas Jefferson
I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ – Thomas Jefferson
Clowns are raining down. Hear the screams of the greasepaint! Danger! Clown puddles. 572 days
100-days TODAY! I didn’t think in a million years I could ever quit. With everyone’s great advice/stories and to Kill the Can detailed to a TEE on what to expect, Helped a TON! After 33-years of being hooked I will never go back to grizz/cope. I still have a few symptoms but I already feel 100% better now then I did 100-days ago.
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE! YOU CAN QUIT TO!
Congratulations Jack – HUGE accomplishment! Proud to be quit with you today.
Well atleast a few people have heard of MST3K.
Jack….Congrats… I’m like 5 months….can a day for 30 years… I;m good and do not want it… but what an epic battle…. Good job bud…. I’m with you in spirit
Hi I’m 32 years old been dipping since I was 12. I was using 1.5 cans of skoal per day it’s only been 24 hrs but I feel good, have some SMC to help.
Hey all, my name is Kevin. I have been dippibg since i was 15 and i am 24 now. I need to stop dipping so i can live a better life, i have a 1 year old baby boy and i dont want him to see me doin it. Its bugs the hell out of my wife. Whats some help i can get. I just ordered Jake’s mint chew in hopes of helping
You’re in the right place Kevin! Congrats on a great decision. If you haven’t yet, head on over to our forums where we’ve got over 30,000 members who know what you’re going through cause we’ve all been there! http://forum.killthecan.org/
Hey Kevin, I started when I was 17 and just quit 48 days ago. I think there are two keys. You actually have to want to quit. Maybe having your son will be what actually makes you want to quit. The other is to have some gum (not nicotine gum) or fake chew around when you start feeling like you want to put one in. You’ll hear this alot, but if I can do it, literally anyone can do it.
Thanks, I really do want to quit getting my Jake’s mint chew here in on Wednesday so I think that’ll be a really big help for me I’ve tried doing the gum but I’m just not a gum person and tried sunflower seeds and that got really expensive I’ve went from about a can to can and half a day too I can a month
PT is absolutely right. Day #9 for me. I dipped regularly for just about 10 years. Triggers will be everywhere, and you’ll need to power through them. But I’ve come to the realization that you have to set goals in the “Quit Game”. I never thought I’d be able to cold turkey the stuff. But I did, and I am. You have to get mad at it. Realize it was killing you. How fucked up is that? We knowingly and willingly were ingesting something that we knew, for a 100% fact, that if continued, would eventually result in health complications for us. Either sooner or later. Either visible, or non visible. Mental, or physical. Or, just maybe, all of them and quicker than you planned. That’s the level of pissed off frustration towards the original decision to start the stuff you need to make, to make quitting a reality for you. I’ll tell you, if I wouldn’t have gotten to this level, personally, I wouldn’t have stopped dipping and I would still be wasting precious time given to me to fulfill my duties as an individual on this planet (whatever you believe those are). My best advice, like anything else worth doing in life, base your decision on something bigger than yourself. Because frankly, our decision to start in the first place was selfish. I hope this finds you well
I will NOT sacrifice my coffee because of some stupid trigger for gods sake.
Day 14 shrimping went well yesterday everyone have a great day.
Day 49 and for the last 3 or 4 days I feel absolutely bloated and full all the time- hope this goes away soon!
Day 2 quit, (almost 42 hours now) after slowly weening back over the past few months. Actually doing great so far. No actual withdraw symptoms at all. Just very mild mental triggers. I’m pretty pumped at this point. Spent months psyching myself up, preparing for this. Never thought it’d be this easy. Trying not to jump the gun or get ahead of myself, but I’m pretty confident that I’m quit for good. Never thought I’d say that.
Head over to the Quit groups and fund August 2017 group. We’d love to have another person to quit with. Also there lies the expectation for you to post roll every morning and commit to 24 hours at a time…each day…accountability. Hope to see you there.
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I had two big anxiety attacks just before 90 days.I’m talking about attacks,heart pounding can’t catch your breath arms and legs tingling.I had anxiety to that lasted for months but that’s a different thing altogether.They say anxiety doesn’t kill you and they’re right,but anxiety attacks leave a mark.
Thanks Steve. Not horrendous just annoyingly miserable. Definite funk that has been hanging around for 3 days. Hope it starts subsiding soon
568 days today…. well i passed the test of all tests over the weekend. I doubt anyone wants to hear the entire story but after being attacked and hit with a club then disarming my attacker without hitting him once then running home and calling 911 then being arrested myself then having the pos cop threatening me all the way to the jail about making up false charges and continuing to threaten and harrass me after i said i just wanted to talk to my lawyer. After 3-4 hours in jail before they finally processed my bail… that was the closest ive come to just going out and getting a can since i quit. The one thing that stopped me is chew will not make anything better, in fact i have no doubt if i had screwed up i would be feeling even more stressed out now. I would probably still be chewing but the initial rush i would have gotten the first day would be gone and it would only be adding to my stress. Im obviously still alittle upset and wanting to speak to my attorney asap because i am ready to go to trial now. Too many details to go into but my attackers own statement screwed himself like admitting he hit me and i never hit him+ much more. Sorry for venting.
Day 532 of no Copenhagen after 1.5 cans a day for 39 years.
Amy anxiety issues around day 100? I’m struggling with panic attacks.. Chewed for 38 yesrs
Yep… day 100 or so I had another round of bad withdrawal / anxiety. Luckily it passed pretty quickly.
I’m right there with you. See my post below; but yeah, I still get a little anxiety and out bursts of anger from time to time.. In spite of the craving, anxiety, and nic fits, I really do not feel any temptation. Temptation, or lack thereof, is the key component….at least for me.
Quitting is something you actively do, and not something that passively happens.
I quit with all of you today.
Hello Edge my name is Chris and I could really use your help, i have finally come across someone who has dipped Cohenhagen for so much and for so long. I have done it religiously for 20 years at around 2 cans a day, i am talking having it shoved in my mouth from one side to the other, its that bad!! I tried quitting cold turkey but the fog was so bad on only the first day and i am trying not to use nicotine gum because I didn’t want to add any more uneccessary nicotine into my system and the gum just made me want to chew more!! Did you have to ween off of the Copendemon, as I call it, before you made your quit? You seem like you could be my much needed partner in this!!
Day 100.
Good SKEDADDLE congrats.
Thanks for the props, B.
Congratulations. Keep strong because the struggle isn’t over. I started feeling normal after 120 days. I’m at 185 now and I just had my first dip dream in the last 2 months last night. So things keep coming up, stay strong.
I know what you mean, and knowing that I’m still a ways away from being over it sets up reasonable expectations. It used to be I’d get frustrated after about 30 to 60 days because I had expected the urges to be over and I would cave. Days 70 to 80 I had cravings, and I’ve been pissed off since Sunday for really no reason.
Morning Elkslayer
Are your symptoms the same and as strong every time you started over?
Honestly they seem to be stronger at the beginning and then after day three they get easier much faster than the first time. Don’t know why. You go through the same horrible crap each time so don’t cave just keep going through the suck. I feel really good right now. Thanks for asking and thanks for the support
Hey all, I’m currently several hours into my quit. I’ve been cutting down to one lip a day and finally decided that it’s time free myself from nicotine devil. Today, may the 3rd, will be my official quit date. After lurking for a while, I created an account an looking for a quit group. However when I hit the quit group link in the forum the page shows up blank. Any chance I could get some help
Hey man – can you take a screenshot of what you’re seeing an send it to me? chewieATkillthecan.org. Happy to see if I can help get you squared way.
You’ll be looking for the August 2017 Quit Group (I’m in it too) Look forward to seeing you there.
see if this helps — this is a link to the quite groups -http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55566/ –
you’ll need to scroll down below all the previous year’s groups and look for Pinned: “Pre-HOF August 2017 Group” —
or if this works this is a link directly into the group
http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30223454/81/#new
you dip, love god and your name is Elkslayer?! your my new mentor. I’m Mark and I’m on day 6 and i love to elk hunt.
CHEWIE… Jake’s Mint Chew has just put out pouches for 3 of the flavors. I haven’t got my hands on the tins yet due to high demand. Wanted to let you know for your reviews. Sure you can get your hand on them faster than me.
Thanks again for all you do here on this site. 3 years nic free from a 24 year Copenhagen Snuff habit.
Yessir! Review here: https://www.killthecan.org/jakes-mint-chew-pouches-review/
Thanks for the kind words – looking forward to what you think about them!
Hi Chewie,
Why this Dislike button?
During this stage, all we need is support. Even a single dislike can cause people to lose the faith they put in this forum.
Please re-think.
A valid point sir… will take care of shortly.
Guess I should have looked further before leaping into the message LOL! Now, honestly, I truly think TeaZa puts out the best pouch. How are Jake’s in comparison?
Honestly, they’re tough to compare. All of the Jake’s products (including the pouches) are made from mint so regardless of flavor they all have “minty” undertones. Teaza are tea based products so they’ve got “tea” tastes. I think if I had to choose one I’d go with Teaza as I love all of their products / flavors but Jake’s have definitely done their homework and put out a good product. I’d say it probably comes down to personal taste / preference.
Elkslayer, you kill me. I quit in April 2016, you caved. I supported you in August 2016, you caved. Against my better judgement I supported you again in March 2017, you caved. I’m sorry but this is like baseball here with me. Three strikes and your out!!! And to add insult I traded numbers with you. You acted like you wanted no messages from me and I never received any support from you. I didn’t realize you had another attempt to quit with a different ID until after they banned you for it. I think highly of KTC. It has worked for me and I have embraced the system. I hope they do not allow you back in because it would totally change my opinion of the site and make me rethink staying long term.
Elkslayer, the fact that you are in here giving advice slays me. This is a place for serious quit.
Bill I was just putting comment on here it was an opinion. Everyone can take it or leave it. Also I know it is hard to believe I am quit and I’m serious thanks for comment I check each day for an ass chewing or just a reminder of what a piece of shit I was to all of my groups. I get it and I need the lashing. Have a great day being quit!!
I understand your anger and I understand the three strikes. I was never good with phone number thing at all. You did support me all of those times and I failed. I get it. Thank you for being honest on here and at least responding. I am truly quit here and I know no one believes that. I hope I at least get to continue to post my days on this part believe it or not it helps me. Have a great day and thank you for letting me have it. I definitely deserve it. Oh and thanks for all your support in the past.
Elk
Good morning. My husband quit chewing tobacco 66 days ago. He has been doing such a great job. But the last few days he keeps telling me he has a strong urge just to buy a can. I’m trying to support him the best that I can and encourage him not to but I’m not sure that I am helping him. Does anyone have any ideas how to curb the cravings? I really want to help him and he’s doing such a great job any help is appreciated.
Quitting is a conscious decision we all have to make every day. This is why everyone supports each other by saying “I quit with you TODAY”. Unfortunately there is no magic beans to make the cravings go away. When the cravings/desire creeps in (and they do), he needs to grin and bear it like the rest of us. If we would have never started we wouldnt have to deal with it now.
Our age is usually the biggest factor in recovery time.
Dipped between 1-1,5 cans per day for 18 years — Finally quit 4/25/2017. Tried posting but not sure where it went. Great to read other’s and their journeys. It hasn’t been all that tough. I’m not sure why — I’ve tried in the past and failed miserably. This time, failure isn’t an option. Currently using Jakes Straight Mint Chew, I’ve ordered some Smokey Mountain samples to see if anything tastes better….also Bigs sunflower seeds between fake dips…and an occasional Nicorette 4mg although they make me a tad dizzy.
You had me right up until the 4mg Nicorette. That’s crushing your recovery as it’s giving you the nicotine your body is craving. Cut that out and you’re on your way!
Thanks for response. Yeah I’m finding out that Nicorette is an unacceptable crutch. This, fortunately, wont be hard for me because I HAVE used it but not out of desperation. And it makes me dizzy anyway. So I will quit that, would like to join a new group but am having trouble figuring out how. can anyone help with that? and since I used the Nicorette today I will go with tomorrow as a quite date.
Congrats on a great decision and on your day 1! Register for our forums here: http://forum.killthecan.org/register/
Let me know if you run into any issues.
Day 70. I quit with all you today.
We’re quiting tabbacco and saving our souls at the same time.I beleave we’re ahead of the smokers.Amen.
Elkslayer, glad to see the good progress, brother.
Ephesians 4:27 – Neither give place to the devil.
So this is day 22 for me after about 30 years of Hagen. I woke up this morning thinking about chew. I have been using Fake Chew for the last week like crazy. the first week I used nothing but maybe some jerky/food. The last few days have pretty much felt like the first week to me. Anyway, something I just don’t understand is the triggers/cravings. I also don’t understand why more of you don’t analyze a little better. Is it that it’s because there is to much going on? I know it’s hard but why can’t we have a place on the forum to analyze the quit to a damn science.
This has crossed my mind and is just a theory. Quitting cold turkey without crutches ie: nic gum, fake chew, sunflower seeds, regular gum, candy, food… Is the quickest way to get over your cravings. I feel the use of the above items only prolongs the cravings and triggers. In that order too…. Using fake chew makes your quit last longer. Please tell me I am wrong, and tell me why I am wrong.
I think maybe some polling on the site or in the forum would be cool we could poll the 10 – 20’s or the 20 – 30’s and get to some deeper answers to this addiction and how to help it. Btw I am in now way saying what is being done now is inadequate I just look for better info than what I have seen.
John – I’m on day 186. When I quit I made a decision to not use fake chew, seed, candy, etc. My thought was that I needed to break the oral fixation habit as well. I know most people utilize fake chew with great success but it scared me. Minus the nicotine, the actions of fake chew are the same (packing a can, packing a lip, spitting in a bottle, etc) and for me it felt like it would be to easy to re-lapse. I went completely cold turkey and after the 1st couple weeks i have felt great since.
I’m well inside a couple of weeks. I guess I have more energy but I’m somewhat in good shape. I think I should do away with the fake chew. I think It only makes it worse. Thanks for the response.
Hey John. I’m on day 108 of my quit and I’ve utilized the fake dip since day 2. The first 3 weeks of my quit I couldnt stop filling my lip with smokey mountain. But slowly I’ve been cutting off, now at 2 fake dips a day. Sure people say that it just keeps the oral fixation going and doesn’t fix the problem but I don’t feel the slightest urge for a fake dip. The only time I use is when I really need it. My friend and I quit on the same day with the fake stuff. After a month he figured he could do it on his own without smokey mountain or any type of crutch. 2 weeks later he caved. IMO use the fake stuff when it’s absolutely needed, the nic bitch is out to get us all.
See Colton I feel like i crave the whole action of grabbing the can opening and using what ever is inside. I don’t think of weather it’s real or not once i’m using it. But JustAPinch said he feels great after only a couple weeks Cold Turkey. I know we are all different but I think Im going to stop the Fake stuff and report back.
Early 30s, quit 183 days. Dipped for about 13 years. I attempted those aids that you listed several times in the past. They only lasted a few weeks at best for me. Every time I would run out of those “aids” I still had cravings and going to the convenience store for the real thing was so much easier. I went cold turkey this time and it worked. I was also consciously was trying to beat my oral fixation because I knew that was a related issue to using nicotine. I started with chewing on ginseng root to help with the fatigue, then I switched to chewing on cinnamon sticks, due to price. Now for about the last 2 months, so 4 months after the quit I don’t need anything. Also around that time was when I stopped having the “Dip Dreams” and everything felt like it went back to normal. I’m even starting to lose the weight that I gained from stress eating while quitting.
As for triggers, I intentionally exposed myself to triggers when I was in a strong mental state. I would go for a drive or watch a movie, things that I always had to dip with, when I knew I wouldn’t be weak to giving in. This helped me re-program my triggers, to show that I didn’t need nicotine to do these activities.
Dude everything you said makes so much sense to me. I’m throwing out the Smokey Mountain right now. My main triggers are morning/work/and eating so I have already been working on those accept for working where i would use the Smokey Mountain the most. Thanks REDTRUCKER.
Appreciate your insight. For me, fake snuff was a life (and quit) saver. I never would have gotten through without it. That said, it affects each quitter differently so if it drives you toward the real can it should definitely be taken off the table as a quit tool.
Congrats Larry.
One week no dip on your. You almost capsized a couple of quit groups to get here,but what’s done is done.No looking back.
Day 430 I am quit today. Join the site, it will change your life.
Day36, feeling good, less craves. Biopsy done for small cyst on tonsil, everything is alright. Now wants to see dentist who can do primary screening of my mouth (just for safety and feeling better)
First target – today, stay quit
Second target – 30 days (achieved!)
Third – 50 days
Fourth – 60 days
Fifth – 75 days
Sixth – 90 days
Seventh – 100 days
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Awesome goals there TKV. Keep on keepin on. Today is day 400 for me. So i know you can do it.
Great. I am damn sure that you never gonna slip this schedule.
All the besst TKV
thanks both. Your wishes and support helps me to stay quit, much appriciated mates!
Im 22 days dip free any suggestions to help with the cravings
Change the name to KISS the CAN and we can make this a dating site with all the love on here the past couple of days.
Lol good one
Day 125 quit, feel great and have saved over 500 bucks,
Tomorrow is my day 1
Day 463 for me. I just joined as a member but reading kill the can comments and people’s stories helped me quit. The day I quit was the day before I got my wisdom teeth out and I stumbled across this site a couple days later after googling how long I should wait before I chewed after having them pulled. There was a comment that said quit while you have the chance and it struck a nerve. I had tried to quit in the past and always ended up caving thinking I’d just have one every once and awhile and a week later was chewing non stop again. Skoal wintergreen xtra was my flavor of choice and I’d spit one out and throw in another. I am still using smokey mountain wintergreen as a crutch but I’m finally free of the addiction that once controlled me for 18 years. So thank you guys for commenting and sharing your stories. You never know which one might strike a nerve. And if you haven’t quit and are waiting for your chance, make today the day you set yourself free.
On Day 33 here – posted roll for 4 weeks straight in July 2017. Was wondering if anyone knew of a similar site to assist smokers in their quit? My brother has been a smoker for 15 years and thinks that “vaping” is a healthy alternative to cigs. I looked online and saw that most sites commend people for using the patch/nic gum. It’s a joke. The reason KTC is great is that it is unapologetic. Are there any sites exactly like this one for cig smokers? Ya know, one that accepts cold turkey as the only option rather than weening off? I saw someone congratulating another person for saying they were going to quit tomorrow. Seriously? Is there any other site for cig smokers that holds people as accountable as KTC? Although I doubt it, any suggestion would be appreciated. Quit with all members of KTC today.
Wolf, the short answer is no. There is one other website I am aware of that only accepts cold turkey quitters, but no group out there I am aware of that has the same level of accountability that KTC has – which IMO is its special sauce. I left a group after the members told someone it was okay that they caved and maybe they should try again when they were ready. What the…? Talk about throwing an addict a bone! I knew I needed to be somewhere where if I caved, folks would NOT be coddling my junky ass. I posted roll on KTC that day and am forever grateful that the quitters of KTC let this ex-smoker join their ranks. Tell your brother we were not meant to coat our lungs in oil, to stop being a slave to nicotine and post a day 1 in KTC.
I would say its all the same, its just how you look at it. I started smoking when i was 13. Did that for almost 20 years then About 10 years ago i quit smoking and started chewing because i thought chew would be easier to quit…Wrong! lol!! Idk about holding accountable, you need to hold yourself accountable. You have to want it, nobody can do it for you. if your brother isnt ready to quit your not going to make him, all you can do is show him how and the benifits you’ve gained from quitting. Ive said this over and over but quitting nic is prob the best thing i could have done. My biggest regret is i didnt quit 10+ years ago when i first started toying with the idea. I could have really been enjoying life that whole time but i have to remind myself how greatful i am for finally being able to quit in the first place. My life has changed so much for the better in the last 1.5 years. Once you start noticing the benifits of quitting it starts getting easier. Started jogging a few weeks ago. Its crazy how my endurance is already going up, im not totally out of breath. These last few days ive caught some kind of bug that has been kicking my ass so i havnt been jogging but hopfully this weekend i will be again. Anyway grats on your 33 days, at this point you have no excuse to relapse, the shts out of your system and its all in your head now but it sounds like you got it.
Thank You for your thoughtful responses. I agree that to truly be quit you have to be ready and you have to want it. No one can force you to quit – it has to be on you. Also, I appreciate that some of the KTC users are former smokers. I will show my brother the site and hope he finds the courage to quit with KTC. He was a chewer for a couple of years but cigs have always been his thing. Cancer sticks or cancer dirt – I hate it and I hope he joins us in our Quit. I quit with Flip, Tom, and all of KTC.
To everyone who reads the front page. I want to apologize to everyone who has supported me in the past and I want to give a big thank you for supporting while and when you did. What I did was chicken shit and rude. I know I will never be able to use this site and that does suck, I get it though. I want to say thank you to the few who have stayed in contact with me after all of this no names will be mentioned. I guess I will not post on here anymore and I will find a way. To all newcomers don’t do what I did fess up if you mess up this is a good site and if you use it correctly you will be quit. Once again I’m sorry for what I have done this is the least I can do is apologize. Take care everyone and God bless you all
By the way I truly do means this.
The L was me elk I accidentally hit post before I got my name in there.
Elk I’m throwing you out a life line here by asking for your digits so please don’t ignore me again. I want you to text me your roll! Could it eventually get you back on here? Who knows? Time can heal a lot of wounds, but you need to be focusing on yourself and getting quit. This is a life or death situation… that’s why everyone’s scared to trust you because you could be messing with their life. Please just email me your digits, text me your roll, and we’ll go from there. I’m not going to reach out again so please contact me!
QUITTER here in need of help Ktc won’t allow me back. This isn’t support
Elk
I’ve let you comment here, against my better judgement, even though you were banned from the forums. What I won’t allow you to do is paint half a picture. You are correct… you are not welcome on the forums and I explained why. Please don’t suggest that there’s anything “unfair” going on. We supported you for as long as you allowed us. Until you proved there was no accountability or honesty there. Sorry it’s come to this.
Okay I apologize for my last I understand if you want to remove it. Thank you for letting me at least comment on here.
Elk
Feel free to email me. I’m happy to help point you in the right direction.
Support isn’t a one way street! You got ALL the support you could ever have wanted, and you chose to spit in our faces. You lied to us all.
KTC would have accepted you back with open arms had you been grown up enough to own up to your cave, but instead, you decided to lie. Your story is well known. No, you’re not getting support anymore. I was part of your December quit group, I supported you EVERY SINGLE DAY. And what did you do? You shit on us all. Do NOT come on here trying to slander this site, that has helped save my life, along with many, many others.
Honesty is not that hard of a concept.
Gas
im tryin very hard not to cave in to tobacco my first day almost the end of day one
James don’t just try , there’s no such thing. Just quit today and I quit with you today ! Tomorrow we will quit again !
Don’t give in.
Why can’t I just chat I’m doing nothing wrong expect wanting more help and being honest about what I did. I know there has been worse! I just want to make this work. Has anyone ever made a mistake, were you forgiven for that mistake. I’m just asking for forgiveness that not that much.
Our site, and specifically our forums, runs on honesty and accountability. Without accountability, both to yourself and to your brothers, this doesn’t work.
We have a few rules… very few in fact. We let a TON slide. There’s a couple of things though that we don’t let slide. Lying on roll (using while posting clean) or purposefully hiding who you are. That last one speaks to accountability… and there’s your answer.
I get it I truly do. I have admitted to what I did and I’m trying to return . Sounds like there will be no chance in hell. Okay thanks for responding.
Elk email me your digits. Swishry10@aol.com
If it were that simple. You’ve reached the point where you will lie, cheat, and steal to feed your addiction. Your addiction is the single most important thing in your life right now; it’s more important than God or life.
You have to make your quit take the place of your addiction in the hierarchy of importance in your life. If (and only if) you can do this, if you can make your quit as important as God or life itself; not more important, but as important, you can arrest your addiction and control it.
You’ve come here twice proclaiming to do just that. Both times it was a lie, to yourself and to us. You’ve been banned for breaking a rule that you knew would get you banned. That can’t be undone, and you cannot be un-banned. We have damned few rules here, and they’re pretty commonly known. When you created a second username, you knew you’d be banned just as you know you’ll get burned if you touch the flame of a candle.
Time to move on, Elkslayer.
Today is my third day quit. I am so happy.
keep it up you can do it
Day 92. It’s a tough road ahead, but understand and believe that you can overcome every obstcal and endure every challenge you will face. And you will undoubtedly encounter them. When they do come, stay the course, and before you know it your first day quit may as well have bee a lifetime ago.
I quit with you today.
Congrats on hitting day 92 SKEDADDLE!
Bob,
You and I will likely never meet, and the same can be said for every quitter here. And yet I feel a brotherhood, a kinship, and a bond with all KTC participants. I’m humbled by your support, and inspired by your stories. For those on day one, my hand is extended while the other is grasped firmly by one who has endured longer. I’m not proud, and my strength is not my own. Rather it is lent to me by any who has some to spare. Soon perhaps I’ll have more than I need and can freely give to a brother or sister. Kill the can, so we may live.
I quit with all of you today.
Elk, you posted over 100 days, under 2 separate accounts, 3 different times, right? How many people texted with you personally and supported your quit? You have to understand that you did not abuse the “website,” you wasted the time, energy, and effort of real people who cared more about your quit than you did.
I appreciate your sincere apology, but I just don’t see why you should be let back in. There are other sites where you can join a group and post your promise. They are NOT as good as KTC, in my opinion, but it’s not like you do not have other options.
I think you are a good guy, and I appreciated you when you were part of March 17, but all this account switching and blatant lying to avoid accountability makes me wonder whether you reached the hall of fame with us or whether you just dipped the whole time you were on this site.
If the admins let you back in, I hope you do change your ways. I also hope that you really do quit this time. Take care.
Hey Larry,
I am not a part of your old group, but I am a member of the Dec 15 quit group. I like the idea here that if you cave, you have to start all over again and join a new group. So, It sounds like you are asking if you can join again. Well if you are will to start over and this time you are ready to commit, then I think you should be welcome with open arms.
However, we have to ask you what is going to be different this time? How will you guarantee that this time you will not cave? You should be answering those questions to yourself before you answer to KTC.
I will say this. I was so impressed that this site, created by Chewie and his magnificent 7 that I created a similar site for people quitting heroin and opioid addiction. It is called QuitTheaHabit.org. I only did this after first receiving Chewie’s approval to do so.
My wife and I attended a one week Recovery training course to learn the right things to say, to understand what people are going through, to learn the proper resources to recommend, etc. My broader family has been impacted by heroin and opioid addiction…..
One of the tenets of this recovery training is that people are in recovery when they say they are in recovery. So based upon my training, you are quit because you say you are.However, I do like the old school way of fessing up and explaining what is going to be different this time.
The most important thing in any quit is turning of the switch in your head where you debate in your head when you are going to use again. If you decide never again, the rest is easy. You just get through every day and every day you add another +1 to your quit count.
Day 589.
I quit with you today.
This is my first time using this site, I have not realized how long that I thought I was dipping as a hobby but now it has been regular. My wife thinks that I quit a while back but I still do it at work or behind her back. Several years ago I quit and developed anxiety from it which caused me not to be able to sleep at night and shaking during the day. I have been doing it at work because it is like a cup of coffee in the morning and keeps me running. I went on a guys wkd trip and chewed every chance that I could. I have a sore lip and out of spit.
I think this is a good time to take the leap again to quit even though I am worried about the anxiety again and the fact that it is fun to sneak around when doing.
My plan is to limit myself to one dip per day at work for this week, then next week try the non-nicotine pouches for the flavor and habit.
I realize that people probably write on here all the time with false promises but the fact that I am writing on this page means that I am serious. My daughter who is two started to mimic my spitting which I took as a sign that this habit needs to go.
Wish me luck, I think talking about this process will help.
Ryan, Best of luck. You had your moment of clarity, now you need to own up to it. Tell your wife. I don’t think you can do it without her knowing what you are going through. Its easy to hide the dipping, but you can’t hide the withdrawals. It the self-compromising during the withdrawal period that kills most people. I don’t know you, but from what you’ve shared, you are a prime candidate to give in because its easier than facing the real problem. You will need the support and understanding from those around you for the first week for sure, if not the first 100 days.
Thanks, I am feeling good. self control is everything. I is awesome to see others on here and I think it will help. Luckily I do not have people that do it in front of me since it is so easy to just bum off someone.
I’m here with ya man. My little girl has started spitting in the yard like her daddy. Day 3!