What To Expect When You Quit Dipping
So you want to quit dipping and you would like to know what to expect when you do. We’re not going to pull any punches around here, it’s tough. That’s why we’re all here. This timeline has been put together over the years with the input of THOUSANDS of quitters. It has been shown to be remarkably accurate from the time you STOP USING NICOTINE.
Days 1 through 3 – Pure hell. You will walk in the fog. Nothing will seem real. Your brain is wondering where the hell its fix is and it is going to punish you until you come up with it. 72 hours, that’s all you need to get the nicotine out of your system. This is where you start to deal with the physical withdrawal associated with quitting dip. Drink lots of water. Read, post, read and post. Don’t take your anger out on your loved ones. We always tell everyone………Make this quit about YOU. If you quit for your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, kids, mommy or daddy, you will resent them during this period. Quit for yourself and come in here to rant. Yell at us. Bitch at us. We can take it. We’ve been there.
Days 4 through 20 – Here comes the mind games. The nicotine is out of your system now. You will still have some physical things to deal with.
- Cravings
- Irritability
- Insomnia
- Fatigue
- Inability to Concentrate
- Headache
- Sore throat
- Constipation, gas, stomach pain
- Dry mouth
- Sore tongue and/or gums
Yep, you have this to look forward to. Your brain is rewiring itself. It isn’t used to being in an oxygen rich environment. Your body is responding in kind. Everything is a mind game now. All the cravings you have are actually due to triggers. Triggers are events where you are in a situation you would normally dip in. Mowing the grass, playing poker online, playing golf, working on the car………you get the picture. Keep drinking water, use seeds, the fake stuff, whatever you need to keep the dip out of your mouth. Remember, oral fixation is part of our habit, something you will eventually need to break. For now though, use all the tools you have.
Days 20 – 50 – You’re winning. Life isn’t great, but you probably had a couple of nights where you actually got some sleep. You might notice you’re going to bed earlier than you normally do. Not staying up to get in that last dip. You may notice some sores in your mouth. You’re thinking, “great, I quit dipping and now I have cancer.” You almost certainly don’t. Your mouth is healing itself. Tiny ulcers you’ve had for a long time are healing. We recommend you visit your dentist around the 30 day mark. Don’t be a pansy, just do it. He or she will be very supportive and they can explain the sores much better than we can. Don’t let your guard down. Don’t go out drinking with the fellas or the girls. We also recommend that you don’t drink for at least the first 50 days. Drinking is a huge trigger event and it weakens your resolve.
Days 50 – 70 – Cruise control. Life is really good. You still think about it, but this is good stuff here. Some people may suffer anxiety attacks during or a little before this stage. Some doctors say we dipped to relieve anxiety anyway. Some people can push right through this, others need a little help. Talk to your doctor before you quit or immediately after you quit. They will know what to do. Some give Wellbutrin or Lexapro. Lots of people in the support community take or have taken these medicines and can help you with the affects. Don’t wait till you get to this stage of the game to talk to a doctor. You’ll cruise through this stage much easier if you know how to take care of the anxiety or at least know it’s coming.
Days 70 – 90 – Late term craves, the doldrums, the blahs, the blues. Some people end up feeling like they are right back at day 1. The fog, the haze, the craves. It can be a tough time. You need to let people in your group know this is happening. Time to circle the wagons to get through it. It usually only lasts a few days. Fight through this and make sure your order your HOF Knife or Coin. Here are a couple of articles about this time period which we refer to as “The Funk”
Days 90 – HOF – Houston, resume the countdown. Enjoy the hell out of these last 10 days. You will be celebrating with your group as you all enter the HOF. It is a great feeling and an accomplishment you should not take lightly. Do something special for yourself and your family. They put up with your sorry ass for the last 90 days and they deserve something too.
100+ Days – Stay vigilant. Use the tools you have, to continue beating back any cravings or urges. You will still experience dip dreams and longings, but you are fully qualified to beat them down. Continue to post roll with your group. Get into the newer groups and help somebody out. Pass it along. Live the dream.
Hit a month a few days ago. I still crave but as the days go on, it’s been getting easier. I’m feeling good. Even my friends that dip are telling me to stay from it. I’m excited to see what happens in the future. To anyone trying to quit, stick to it. It’s a mental thing. The cravings won’t last forever.
Ya I was using the patch for a day I think it’s worse now it’s been couple hours without patch my withdrawals come and go and I been chewing cope for 30 years sucks but it’s so bad for u it really started to give me alot of problems health wise I’m done srew the withdrawals they will go away and will save alot of money and feel better
I am 19 have been dipping since I was 8 I get 3 to r food out of a whole can then it’s gone I dip 5 cans a day very 6 to 7 months I get canker sores but now 3 teeth have like brown wood looking look towards bottom him also every morning
I wake up and pull a huge 2 to 3 xi get a full of skin out I have heart burn it suck I’m young yeah but I have anxiety I had a stroke I’m on lexapro I have a brain. Tumor and I have to stop but I can’t dryer capes dryer him sunflower seeds someone please fucking help me I have a baby y o. The way I need suggestion s
Day 3 here. I always thought Day 1 was the hardest until I started reading up on it. In my mind I’m trying to convince myself that one more can isn’t going to hurt anything… that I’ll quit after that one. Man this sucks. I’m not giving in this tine!
I have quit for 7 months. I’m a logger everyone chews I did 15 hours a day non stop. One day I quit and had my last chew from my last can in knowing I was quoting when my mom called her cancer came back. Breast cancer but moved to her bones. Not curable has less than year. She never chewed smoked nothing. I told my self every chew I was asking for it and she tried not to get it and will die. It’s hard I think about it a lot. I learned over the years of quoting to have just one will ruin it don’t have even one I go hours without thinking about it but when I do I tell my self man up deal with it move on.
I know what you mean KW I’m on day 3 here and all I want to do is put a dip in and watch some baseball it’s like part of me wants to and the other part of me keeps telling me no.
Just hit one week as of 40 minutes ago. Had some Grinds coffee pouches to help. Of course I ran out and am waiting on the next delivery, hope it’s tomorrow.
Been trying to quit for a while and now have to take a blood test for life insurance. Perfect time to knock out two birds. Toughest week ever though. The fog is real! Especially driving to early morning work and have that first crave
This is exactly what im feeling right now I am 4 days in! Hope you didnt give in!
Hey guys, just wanted to shed some light on this withdrawal process for the people who are still struggling. I’m on day 105 and couldn’t be more proud of myself to make it this far, I couldn’t even imagine making it to this day when I decided to quit. Seriously still can’t believe it sometimes. This has been the hardest thing I’ve done in my entire life, but I think I am officially out of my funk and foggy days! I’ve had 3 great days in a row! I don’t think I’ve had 3 awesome days in a row throughout these first 100 days, so this is an epic feeling. For anyone who feels like this will last forever, trust me, it won’t. One day you will wake up and start to see some serious improvement in your life without tobacco, it just takes the brain some time to get used to things without your bad vice.
Have patience and keep fighting every day, the battle still isn’t over for me, I know there will be cravings in the future.
Ok guys, heres my quick story.
Probably like a lot of people, it started out like no big deal. I chewed for the first time during baseball with my team mates. I did it maybe a few times a week, once a day. It was a “fun” thing to do with the friends while we played. Or on the bus back from a game. I enjoyed being buzzed, and trying new flavors and kinds.
Then one day, it started becoming a daily thing. Everyday after school. Then in the morning before school and after, and before bed… you know where I’m going with this.
I “quit” in college many times. And when I say quit, I mean short-long term breaks. The best and longest I ever got was 6 months. The day before my internship of my last semester, my girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me. I’m not the kind of guy to talk about relationship problems, so I decided to cope by chewing.I figured I’d get a can, mend my feelings, and move on.
Three years later, I moved on from the girl, but not the chew lol. For New Years of 2017, I actually “quit” again and survived until April. Something set me off, and even though I knew it was an absolutely terrible idea. I did it again.
My girlfriend saw my can in my car, and got upset knowing I had quit. And started again.
So today marks day 1. I should say 24 hours here in a few more hours.
I found this site randomly and everyone’s stories motivated me as they all seem similar to mine. I know we can all do it.
I am gonna document my story on instagram too… journaling will help I think. If anyone wants to follow my ig is @yustindeadlifts.
I will stay here on this site as well. Thanks a lot everyone lets do it
I am glad I found this website. My husband, of 6 days, has decided to quit dipping. YAY for him!!!!!!!!!!! He has been dipping for about 16 years or so. He quit Saturday 5/13. He said he would as soon as the can he had open went empty., I will admit that I did have my doubts. I am so proud of him!!!! On Sunday, Mother’s Day, he even explained to our daughter, she just turned 6, that he was giving up the “yucky stuff” and he may be a “little moody and cranky”. She later told me she was excited but did not like him to be cranky š
I can’t imagine how hard this is and is going to be. I have read all the comments and am so impressed by each of you for your commitment to quit.
At this point, he is very angry, antsy, eating like crazy, and MOODY! He works nights so his sleeping is also being affected. Tonight, he made the comment that he doesn’t think that the town where he works has enough snacks available to overcome this!! I thought it was funny, but now, after reading your comments, I see that this is a serious issue.
What can I do to help him? I have already sent him a text to look this site up. Working nights, I have a feeling he used dip to to stay alert, have energy and to bond with his co workers. His job is very stressful and the majority of his co-workers also dip. I know this is not going to be easy for him, I asked if he was going to let his co workers know and he said yes. I don’t think any of them would deliberately sabbatoge his efforts.
I have already reviewed the section on what to expect and I have to say I am not looking forward to it but I am 150% behind him. Any suggestions on how to help him? I know a few of his triggers like dipping after eating and while relaxing on XBox. I have purchased mints, hard candy, nuts (peanuts, cashews, almonds, etc) twix bars, and sun flower seeds to keep his mouth busy. Should I purchase nicotine patches or anything like that?
Please offer any advice you can. I want him to be successful and I am so proud of him!!
Thank you in advance for your help, time and assistance.
Cary
Thanks for being involved and willing to help Cary! Definitely say away from any sort of nicotine patch / gum…. it will reintroduce nicotine into his system and put him back to ground zero. If he quit on 5/13 then this his day 3… it’s traditionally the worst day BUT there’s good news too… after today the nicotine will be completely out of his system (it takes roughly 72 hours). If nuts, mints, etc aren’t doing the trick for him there are some outstanding non-tobacco / non-nicotine alternatives out there: http://www.killthecan.org/fakedip
I’m on day 9. I’ve been doing pretty good. I still really want it. I’m doing better than I thought I would. I’m just hoping I can that 100 day mark. That’s the long term goal. Wish me luck.
Congrats on 9 days of freedom Alex! That 100 day mark is a tremendous goal, but don’t put TOO much stock in it. You’re not going to be “cured” then. It’s an outstanding milestone but it shouldn’t be your end goal. One day at at time my man… you’re doing awesome so far!
Hit 15 days and still going strong. I’ve been having dreams where I go and buy a can. It’s happened three nights in a row. Is that normal?
Absolutely! Almost 3 years removed, I still get the occasional dream I’m taking a real dip again! Had them a lot in the start of my quit as well. All normal.
-JP
I just found this page, and you guys are a great resource for support, knowledge, and humor as we go through this! I am 42 years old, and have been smoking and chewing since I was a teenager. Sure, I’ve quite numerous times before, even as long as 2 years, with a 10-year break from chew, but this time I’m taking myself seriously. One of the worst things about being a multi-attempt quitter is that no one cares any more! I don’t blame them, because they’ve all watched me lie to myself and others time and time again, only to ultimately let myself and others down! 100 days will let ’em know I’m for real, and I’m looking forward to this cornerstone event in my life. We can break these chains, and live healthier lives — making ourselves and loved ones happier in the process. I do this for myself, and for the fact that I want to grow old and watch my kids grow up not worrying about dad any more!
Keep fighting and things will improve. I remember things greatly improved after 100-150 days and now I’m 2 plus years quit and don’t think about it much at all. You don’t want to back to those first few weeks.
Day 80 over here and I’m definitely experiencing late term craves and depression and not much motivation to do anything. It’s been eating at me for 4 days now and I still feel it this morning. But, the positive benefits from quitting out-perform the negatives by far. I’m reaching out to anyone who can motivate me because these past days have been really hard and I have so much to do to finish school for this semester.
Hang in there Jimmy – you’re in what’s known as “The Funk”
https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/
https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/
Keep fighting!
Why do doctors keep saying that all withdrawal symptoms are gone in 30 days? WTH??
If I had to guess, I’d say it’s because most doctors have never used these products, let alone gone through quitting these products.
I don’t have much time to chime in myself, but I can relate where you are Jimmy. I had anxiety come back around d and visit me in that 70-90 day period. You are in the final stretch of not feeling this anymore. It will be gone for good soon, hang in there. Get to that 100 days and beyond, and you won’t feel this very often anymore.
I promise, it only gets easier, the further you get away from the stuff.
I’m almost 3 years quit, but I remember those 100 days, very well!
Hang in there and continue to stay busy!!
JP
94 days clean. Chewed for 37 years. Still having anxiety isdues
Congrats on 94 days free Randy. 6 days from the first floor, that is a HUGE milestone. I’d say you a nearing the end of that anxiety…If it’s from dipping.
You may have always had it and didn’t know it. I battled that shit about 2 years before I quit…first time I was introduced to anxiety. Didn’t know WTF was wrong. Bottom line, I had a lot going on, obviously more than the brain wanted to deal with and thus, I experienced anxiety. Got through it, but it returned when I quit dipping a year later. Thought i was headed back to anxiety row…but it was just the brain rewiring itself without the residue of nicotine. Lasted for about 10-15 days, then came back just before the 100 day mark…then I was clear.
I now know, that anxiety and nicotine cessation, go hand and hand. And I definitely used nicotine in the past, to deal with stress that is the root of anxiety.
If the anxiety you have is from the quit, it will eventually leave for good Randy.
And I agree with Chewie, doctors don’t know what an individual goes through when they quit nicotine. All they know, is what they’ve read up on. Unless they went through this valley of hell known as the quit, they cannot accurately tell an individual what they’re in for.
Keep fighting and an early congrats on that 100 day milestone!
-JP
I’m on day 2 rn about 36 hours in , I’ve quit before for military training 14 weeks, plus or minus a day or 2 before I started again. , but it’s definitely harder when your not constantly busy. Anyway the biggest thing I remember from the first time was thinking. Keep your mind busy. And definitely around 90 to 100 plus days you can fight any urge for it. Like I didn’t even think of it at all. If my next door room mate wasn’t constantly doing it I probly wouldn’t of picked it back up. 1 stupid mistake of oh let me just try it again sets you back . Not all the way because after that first one I could still go on my day without doing it. It’s the constant stupid mistake to say ahh what the he’ll I’ve had a good day I’m just gonna sit back and relax. Just goes down hill from there personally. Probly not the motivation you were looking for , but hey buddy at least your not sitting at 36 hours . Take pride in the amount of time you’ve been free from it. It’s definitely an achievement to be proud of
I quit on March 1, 2017 for Lent. My wife is supportive especially during the start. I used jolly ranchers to suck on since I don’t do crowds well. So yeah. White knuckled my way through a lot of things and now after 18 years I’m tobacco free. Any suggestions on how to convince my wife to convert my old dip money into hunting fund.
Day 8. Feeling very irritable and trying not to lash out on those I love. Chewing gum seems to help out with the oral cravings. Having a little fatigue and really not getting more than 4 hours of sleep at night. It is frustrating but I AM going to stick through this quit. Thank you all for sharing experiences. It makes me feel like I am not alone!
3 days without dip. Being deployed overseas makes it so much harder to quit. But at least I can’t take out my anger on the ones I love back home. Wish me luck.
No luck necessary… you CAN do this. Let us know how we can help. Thank you for your service!
Well I am starting right now I am 18 years of age started dipping around 7 years old, I really don’t know why I started, my dad dips and had it so I got curious one day and took a can and tried it and kind of liked it and it kept getting worse now I go through a can in a half a day and I am really needing to quit so here I am ready to start
quitting is easier than what you’ll read on the internet, where experience will differ person to person, and worst case scenario drama reign. I assume you are deployed as a soldier and if so, may God be with you and yours while overseas. peace brother- maybe turn to coffee as a stimulant substitute.
Bryan
2 years quit today after 25 years of Kodiac. It can be done. If you’re early in your quit and it seems impossible just stay quit. It gets better!!!! Thank you Jayp. Thank you Chewie. Thank you KTC.
Peace.
Franco.
Congrats on 2 years quit Franco. Glad to see a familiar quitter out here, that is still quit.
I cannot agree with you more, I was 30 years a Kodiak, then Skoal user. If I can do it, anyone can.
Congrats again and take care Franco.
JP
Iām 18 years old and have been dipping for about 3 years. I often feel like Iām too dependant on the damn CAN and feel I will be happier without having this shit as a crutch in my life. Iām a strong kid mentally but Iām kinda scared about quitting at this point and time. Iām afraid with everything going on like spring break, prom, grad parties, baseball games, boys nights and entering college that I donāt want to have to deal with all of the physical and mental withdrawal symptoms. I want to stop but I feel like it will get me so stressed and all that shot during a great time in my life. So my question is will I really feel so much weight that I will be unhappy with the next few months or will I be able to handle it?
Chris,
You should quit immediately. First off, you probably won’t believe me, but you are currently living in part of the most stress free part of your life. You are about to enter real adulthood, and that will be exponentially more stressful than what you are dealing with currently. Second, you have a lot of activities going on. You see them as stressful events, but you should embrace them because they will be distractions from your cravings. It’s when you are sitting around doing nothing like watching tv that you convince yourself to give in to your cravings. As for your final question, can you handle it? You can only find out if you try it. You said you were a strong kid mentally, well prove it. This is not an easy task.
i started chewing 23 years ago i used a can a day sometimes 2 and today i am 48hrs in to cold turkey and it is hell. i have muscle relaxers,anti anxiety and sedatives they are helping some still feel like shiz. cant wait to be on the other side and never look back i dont want to go through this again!
Aaron,
I totally understand where you are coming from. I’m on day 2.5 of nicotine-free after 30+ years of heavy chewing. I spent the majority of day 1 sleeping because I felt so terrible. Sweats, muscles aches , anxiety. I can only imagine that this is what a drug addict goes through. Never again! This will be the one and only time.
On day 3 and it’s hitting me hard too. We can do this! My order of smokey mountain came in today hoping that will curb the anxiety for a bit to its all gone. And of course my mind is telling me the damage is already done to my body. Feeling lightheaded, throat is tight, feel like glands are swollen and I’m very jittery. We can do this. Hit me up if you guys wanna talk it out.
Cheers!
I’m on day 3 as well and I have the smoky mountain chew too
On to day 10! I’m happy to say that the physical illness only lasted for the first few days. The “fog” starting to clear but I can feel that there is a long storm yet to weather. I broke down and ordered 2 rolls of Smokey Mountain. I tried it and don’t care for it. It’s amazing the lengths that you will go to when you’re desperate!
HEY AARON, been on Copenhagen for 40 years and now I’m on day 17 of quitting cold turkey. Stick with it buddy, its got to get better.
53… chewed since 17. Cope LC. Can a day for last 6 years. 4mg Nic Gum for day one…said F it and cold turkey since.
Get some balls!
You sound like an idiot
Same here. Chewed for 10+ years. Got the 4 mg gum. Chewed it until I was out (70 pieces in 4/5 days) then switched to trident. It was not easy but I was able to quit. Not chewing again. Nice work.
Decided to quit 5 days ago got wisdom tooth pulled the hard way and decided that it was time to give up the can while I was healing now healing up I want to stick it out
Hi I started dipping around when I was 14 I’m 16 now and I quit because I got scared of cancer. Is it normal for my gums to hurt.
Also is anxiety about having cancer normal
Yes all normal
Yes anxiety about cancer is. And if they hurt all day I would see a doctor. Sometimes mine hurt in the morning or after having too many dips in a day.
When my gums hurt, I just moved my Snuse to a different part of my mouth. Stick with it and kick the habit!
Yeah buddy, that’s normal. But do yourself the favor now and just quit.
I quit January 11th so I’m right In the 60-70 day area. Hardest part was the first week. In the phase of the novelty of quitting being old, no one cares when you tell them you’ve been quit for 2 months. It’s old news to them. Gotta just try and remember why I quit and how bad the first week was because ill never go threw that hell again. Hope everyone in the comments below who are on their first couple days sticks with it. Very rewarding and a huge save on money. Naturally happier with tons of energy now. Best decision I’ve made for myself in my life.
Day one…just stumbled on the website and Im going to need these posts…Here we go…
Been dipping since I was 11, 13 years of my life. I’m 24, I started smoking at 18 and cut back on dip, but could never kill the can. I’ve stopped smoking for a week now, only dip and everytime I put a pinch in my gums hurt so bad like they’re on fire. I hate this because I can’t enjoy my dip anymore and I can never get through 3 days with no nicotine. Help.
I chewed for 30 years, I was to the point of eating my chew. I always swallowed all the juices, it was so good! I quit cold turkey, at the busiest time of of farming. I made it so hard for myself, I felt I deserved to suffer for being so dumb to chew. I kept my last can in the fridge and it is still half full, I smell it every day for the past year and eight months! Like I was told, pull up your panties and quit! It sucks but I would ever let it consume me ever again.
Keeping that “trophy can” is a slippery slop my friend. While it acts as a reminder it also gives you easy access during a massive crave. Get rid of it. Tobacco isn’t an option any longer. You’re doing it!
Hey Chewie, it’s no danger, because I will never chew AGAIN!! I pulled up my undies.. Snuse is a demon and that demon will never enter my body again even if so be, I’m on my death bed!! Let me tell you, it’s mind over matter.. Yes it’s a reminder, a reminder of how dumb I was!
Well said! Been there myself and used to keep a trophy can around. I always went back to it after months of not touching any. When I realized I didn’t just want to quit dip but to overcome tobacco, I ditched the can and the constant reminder that it was. Embrace the pain / discomfort and remember it really will end.
Hey switch to grizzly mint not nearly as hard on the gums and it doesn’t burn ive been dipping for about a year and when I first started o did that helped me out a lot
I’m quitting dipping and vaping, and it absolutely sucks! Saturday was the last day I took a puff or had a dip! Sunday was day one. I tried using the patches, but it only made me light headed. So, I ripped that crap today and decided to go cold turkey.
Today is my first day. I just threw out the can. This will mark my fourth time quitting. I am doing this for a reason, to gain more weight. I have been dipping for the last five years and over these years I have lost a lot of weight. Now this time I am very determined to end this bullshit cycle. It has ruined my life and teeth. But I have to admit my brain is playing games with me.
Congrats on your decision to quit! One question… you said you’re quitting because you want to gain weight. What happens if you successfully quit but DON’T gain weight? Are you going to go back to the can?
Thank you. Well putting on weight is one reason to quite another is to save my health and money.
Well i am about to take this dip out for the last time. It is time i quit. I quit before but i also smoked i am quiting both cold turkey. I quit before for a year and then right back at it. But this time i am serious and wanting to save money is a huge factor. I know its going to be hell but hey its all in your head right so as long as i keep my mind off of it i should be good. I am on day 3 cig free. Now its time to let the dip go and say good bye. Going to be hard because my girlfriend smokes and says shes not ready to quit yet.
Bob, one day at a time. . good going
Here on Day 5. I’m 21, started dipping when I was 16. I’ve tried to quit before, but never took it seriously. After 1-2 days in the past, I’d see myself at the tobacco line at the local Walmart buying my next can. I don’t know why this time’s different or what made me feel the need to quit…it just sorta…HAPPENED haha. I’m actually glad it’s working this time. I feel better, stronger, healthier, and way more productive since I gotta keep myself busy haha. I can clearly see that this is for the best. Aside from that, this article above is pretty spot on so far as expectations go. I felt super anxious the first three days, but once I got the “shock” (read many different cases where people would feel a shock throughout their body once the nicotine has left) I instantly felt better! After that, it’s been a cake walk honestly, probably because I’ve only been dipping for a short period of time and when I did, I’d only dip once or twice a day. But I’m glad to see so many people my age quitting this disgusting habit.
Sitting here on Day 3 wondering how I’m going to make it through one day of work without a chaw
how are you doing? hanging in there man?
First day officially quitting, oh hell. Wish me luck
That’s what we’re all here for…..support. Hang tough cuz it’s gonna be rough though you’ll thank yourself in due time. Best choice you’ve ever made….trust me. You can do this, Colin…just stay the course and look forward to a better life without tobacco.
All my best,
Rich – 2+ years tobacco free and loving every minute of it!
Quit because of high blood pressure. Been dipping for 35 years. Mouth hurts, but mental part is done. I want to live as long as I can. If I can stop…so can you.
First day quitting. I’m 20 and have been rubbing snuff since I was in 6th grade. It’s pretty tough.. Could use some words of encouragement.
Your quitting young. Great Job! I’m 40 and have been using some form of tobacco for 25 years. Just quit 3 days ago. Almost past the physical withdrawal. The mental stuff is gonna be tougher I think. Just take it a day at a time.
I quit 17 days ago and talk about pain. Tooth aches,gums hurt so bad stay away from anything sweet you’ll regret it. Head aches throughout the day. Honestly i feel like crap and want to just go buy a can. I’m really trying but there is only so much I can take. Tooth numbing liquid and excedrian extra strength helps a lot and brushing your teeth 5-6 times helps with the pain too. Im just tired of dipping.
Stick with it!!! Quit for an hour at a time if you have to. Get angry if you have to. Don’t let that can rule your life. Your future is bright. Beast mode!!!
Same here, started when I was In 9th grade during wrestling to help me cut weight. I’m 22 and a senior in college now. I have quit for 10 days now, once you make the conscious decision to actually QUIT it’s pretty easy. I had one “turning” point about my 3rd day into quitting. I found an older tin laying under the coffee table. I wanted to take a chew from it so bad but I took it over to the sink filled it with water and dumped it down the drain. Physically destroying seemed to help me get over the hump.
7th day …….without a dip.first 3 were worst i took green tea to overcome the nicotine urges and it worked to a great extend…,,.now things seeems better….although mouth gets dry….but slice orange and lemon….helps me to overcome..dryness….
u doing great…keep up the good work
I’m on day 161 dipped 2 cans a day for nearly 25 years or longer if I can do it you can do it anything worth having is worth working and suffering for
Todd- I’m here to encourage you my brother. I’m 54 and dipped for 30 years. I’m almost at 60 days and not looking back. First week is hell, but you can do it. Ex-baseball player so used sunflower seeds and gum for first two weeks to help with cravings. Your mind is powerful and I know you can beat this.
Eric
This is effing hard :/
Matt,
I’m with ya. Sitting at work, and all I want to do is leave, and get a can. My lips and teeth feel weird. Been off the stuff for ~ a month and I think I might cave.
Hardest thing I ever did Rob. The first 100 days were tough and those first 30 were downright brutal. But, this July will be 3 years clean for me. Beleive me, it does get easier the longer you stay away. Although it was the toughest thing I ever did, it was also the most rewarding. I still cannot beleive I was able to get away from an almost 30 year habit. If I can do it, anyone, including you, can do it.
Hang in there, you are a month into it, well on your way. It DOES GET EASIER!
Take care and stay QUIT…And Celebrate that month away from the junk, you deserve it, that is a big, BIG milestone for you.
-JP
I’m 17 I’ve been dipping for 4 years. I haven’t had a dip in 10 days. ive got these white spots in the front on my mouth on my lips. & my lips are almost gettting chapped. Is anyone else having this problem & should I be worried? Pls help I’m scared to death
hai, try levocetirizine and paracetamol 500mg for first three days of quit, it will help you from headache and body ache third thing is keep some toffee in your mouth it will make your mouth busy as it is habitual , “trust me it helps a lot coz i’m stable from last 48 hrs” . and i was dependent on chewing tobacco from last 20 years.
Been clean for 31 hours and just started shaking, what do I do
Oh Wow! GOOD JOB! Coax yourself to drink 8 oz of water every hour! Buy these 4 essential oils… mix Basil, Clove and Black pepper for under your feet! 1/2 dropper full shared. Marajoram oil under tounge for cravings. Hubby is on day 32 with these helps and has chewed for 40 years!!! Do t give up!!!
Today is my first full day with out a dip. I’m so cranky and irritable I can’t even stand myself. I can’t focus on any thing and I feel like I’m sleep walking. my hands are shaky. I’m doing the best I can to keep my mind busy but it’s very hard. I thought I could quit with out getting help from a doctor but I know now I’m gonna have to get help to quit. I started chewing when I was 12 years old now I’m 46. I’ve been able to do any thing I’ve ever put my mind to but I know quiting chewing tobacco is gonna be the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. After reading everyone’s post I know it can be done. All of you should be very proud of yourselves for overcoming your chewing tobacco addiction. Hopefully soon I will over come my chewing tobacco addiction as well.
Oh Wow! GOOD JOB! Coax yourself to drink 8 oz of water every hour! Buy these 4 essential oilsā¦ mix Basil, Clove and Black pepper for under your feet! 1/2 dropper full shared. Marajoram oil under tounge for cravings. Hubby is on day 32 with these helps and has chewed for 40 years!!! Do t give up!!!
I need help with how you used your essential oils! I’m into EO and I’ve been looking on what to use. I need my husband to quit!
Hi Clare – my wife is huge into essential oils (Doterra). She wasn’t when I was quitting but has gotten into it huge since. I asked here about this and she did some research with her EO friends and here’s a couple of potential suggestion they came up with:
– diffuse black pepper
– clove or protective blend on tongue
– toothpicks soaked in cinnamon oil & black pepper oil to help with oral fixation
– black pepper on bottom of feet twice a day
I’d also suggest he join our forums. Hope one of these helps!
40 here and started chewing at 15. I’m starting day 3 today. Just gotta take it a day at a time. Grrrrrrr.
Day Two after 18 years. Could use some words of encouragement.
Keep busy Chris, the habit is a tough nut to crack, but I abused it for almost 30 years myself and now am over 900 days free…I’m living proof it can be done. Just keep busy. Excersise is a great tool, keeps you busy.
Join the forums here…There are others who quit 2 days ago too. You can all help each other. This is a great thread, but there isn’t always people here, there ARE in the forums.
Good luck!
JP
Chris! I was 17 when i started, now 23, with that being said i have faith that you can do it!, for money, and number one being your health! My teeth and gums are in horrible shape for being 23…. and forget grammar lol but, it has completely ruined my life and totally not worth it in the end. I have a friends father in law that got cancer after 31 years dippin, which was caused from it (stomach cancer) and it was a painful and horrible experience which he has passed from. š and would love to quit myself considering I’m a 1 and 1/2 tin a day myself! I BELIEVE in You and know you will weigh the benefits and facts of this aka *disease* basiclly that has haunted our lifes! And learn to live better health and money wise, and also community wise people frown on us!
i am trying to quit and it has been hard to quit chewing any tips you can give me so i will never go back again.
I just quit 3 days ago…. brushing my teeth really helps me with the cravings. Try it.
Chris,
I agree this sucks. I’m on day 5. I have been dipping for 16 years. I used to dip 4-5 cans a week. Two years ago I made an effort to cut it down to two a week, then last year one a week or less. I thought it would be a lot easier than what it is right now. I don’t really have any words of encouragement, just keep fighting the urge. I have tried to quit numerous times, one time stopped for three months, picked it back up again on a hunting trip. All I can say is good luck! Nothing like being up from 3:30-4:45 AM, wanting to go watch tv and throw in a dip.
I’m on day 35 after 6 years of nearly half a tin a day. I’ve been using nicotine gum CVS brand to help. My mouth feels so clean I can’t believe I didn’t try quitting sooner. Drinking lots of water and I haven’t really had too bad a craving. I was irritable and pissy the first week/week and a half. Sleeping better now and don’t have the possible cancer “monkey” hovering over me. Keep it up man you can do it
SPNER, I commend you on stopping the smokeless tobacco, but if you’re now using nicorette gum, you’re really trading habits. Gotta go nicotine free to get completely off the junk. This is why you haven’t had any “real bad cravings”…You’re still pumping the nic in your body.
Not here to beat you over the head with a sack of nickels just pointing out, to be free, is to be nicotine free.
Good luck!
-JP
This is a great point. My wife want to get me the nicotine gum but I just told her I gotta go cold turkey. On day 3 now and gritting my teeth but almost past the physical addiction.
I quit snus three weeks ago, i suffer from anxiety so it being the 3rd week I feel horrible I deff got a lot of symptoms I got the fog, & insomia, gas, stomach pain, stiffness the shakes an like just feeling whacked out & at times I feel like I’m going crazy. Been snusing since i was 17 now 27 glad I made this change in my life. I know once I get through this I will not touch a can of no type of tobacco this experience has been horrible
Hang in there Nicholas, i certainly remember what you’re currently experiencing. Just stay the course, those symptoms will pass, but you’ve got to want it!
-JP
Just put my last dip down about 2 hrs ago. Here goes nothing!
Good luck brotha. Quit countless times. Four days dip free so far. My weakness/trigger is booze.
Im with you on that one. I’m coming up on 8 days and stupidly went out drinking on day 7. Luckily all my friends knew I was quitting so they kept me in check. Having support around you I think is crucial. I was at about two cans a day for the last 6 years and this might be my fifth go around on quitting. Its tough no doubt thinking that one chew wont hurt you if no one knows about it, but then your right back at it like before. Best of luck to the both of you.
Would love to quit, don’t even enjoy dipping anymore. But every time I go without im extremely easy to set off and moody. I get very stressed over stupid crap. I have a wife and 3 kids.
I know what you mean. I felt the same way.
I’ve been a chewer for about 9 years now. I had a root canal done 3 years ago. This past weekend, I got a toothache and had my face swell up the size of the walnut. Long story short, I went to the dentist and found out that the root canal failed and I am being referred to an oral surgeon. During this time I’m going to go ahead and take advantage of the situation and I’m going to quit dipping. I’ve wanted to for a long time, but I’ve just loved doing it so much. I know it won’t be easy, but it’s something I have to do for more than myself, but for my family as well. It really helps to read all of your stories. I hope I can beat the habit as well.
Very common, JCB, though in the grand scheme of things, gaining a few extra pounds is well worth busting a nicotine addiction. Forget the fake stuff as that only prolongs the habit of dipping which, in my opinion, is more difficult to break than the nicotine addiction itself. Instead, get yourself a healthy supply of non-fat, healthy snacks such as celery sticks, carrots, snap peas etc. which will satisfy the oral fixation without the calories. Hang in there and stay the course. It won’t be long until the cravings cease. Oh….and drink as much water as possible. Good luck!
Rich – 2 1/2 years quit
I stopped and i was sick for all most a year you all seem to recover much faster.but like a fool years down the road i picked it up again i am going to stop this madness
I’m on day 10 right now, finished my last can after lunch on New Years Day. There first few days were much easier some how than the first few times I tried to quit, never made it past 3 or 4 days. I’m just always hungry and have been eating like crazy but working out hard as well. The last 2 nights have been rough, slight headaches and sleep is hard to get. Laying in beecraving food and a dip, and seriously debating going to grab some breakfast and a can of Copenhagen at the moment.. sucking on jolly ranchers trying to fight it. This sucks, but I’ll beat it!
I’m 22 days without a chew. I’ve been having a really hard time falling asleep. Takes me like 3-4 hours just laying in bed to fall asleep, sometimes longer. Some nights I drink a bunch of whiskey just so I can fall asleep. Also get mild headaches often. Just wondering when the insomnia gets better. From anybody that has quit long term
Short answer… yes… insomnia (and sleep issues in general) get better as you move forward in your quit.
Be careful substituting booze for nicotine. It’s a slippery slope.
Hey congrats man on 22 days thats huge. Major props.
I am currently on my 10th hour of being dip free. I have dipped for 16 years now and for the better part of that if I wasn’t eating, I would have a dip in. I am talking from brush teeth in the morning at 6. Dip goes in at 6:05. So most likely 14-15 hours a day I had a dip in my mouth. I am already struggling and getting pissed off about stuff. Craving dip like crazy and trying to convince myself that it really isn’t killing me. This will be the 3rd or 4th time i have legitimately tried quitting. We will see how it goes!!
I was just where you are man, I promise it gets better… I beat the hell out of my door on night number two, I recommend a punching bag instead, I was so pissed off at everyone in the world… but like I said man it does get better even when it seems like there is no way in hell it will.
5 days quit.
I’ve been following this page so I can know what my husband is going through. He is on day 16 of quitting snuff. Been using for over 30 years. He is very depressed and mad because he has gained about 10 or so pounds. Thinks he’s gotta do this by himself. He hasn’t slept longer than an hour at a time since day 2 and is exhausted. He works nights. What helps with the depression? He will not take meds of any kind.
Try B vitamins, hot tea…also light exercise is VERY helpful (light as in walking, jogging, or weight lifting)…if you take 10 days off in a row the benefit of exercise is strongly diminished though. Consistency is key.
Thank you!
Am at like day 287. Quit last Easter. Nothing special about the day, just had enough. Posted here some up until day 100. Never really did a hof piece. Did find everyone’s stories and journeys here very helpful. Still read through them when they arrive. Always say to others for myself – I just got pissed off and quit. It sucks and is hard. No way to sugar coat any of it. But I do feel better and have no plans to return to it controlling me. That’s also what it is. You take control back of your life. That crap in your mouth is just all bad. I wish everyone luck in their pursuit of quitting. I chewed for 25 years constantly.,,if I can do it anyone certainly can.
Be well
John
My thoughts echo John’s. I too picked a date, the day after my 40th birthday and haven’t looked back. Was a long journey, especially those first 100.
But…I did it the exact way, got mad and quit. Leading up to the quit day, I frankly was just tired of the habit. Tired of the tipped spitters, tired of the Lukeoplkia in the cheek, tired of falling asleep with a dip in the mouth, tired of hiding it in public, tired of looking for a place to spit and spending every living moment dipping…Tired, tired, tired. I also agree, if I can quit after almost 30 years of abuse, any one of you can, get mad, join the forums and get quit today!!
-JP
Day #909 Free
Did the same day after my 40th. On day 3 now. Still feeling shaky.
Have made it to Day 10 of the quit after 30 years of a can per day habit. The tipping point was out in the yard with my 6 year old boys and both of them were trying to “spit like Dad.” Broke my heart.
The first few days were brutal and I had the shakes any time I tried to sleep. I am hungry ALL THE TIME and have definitely experienced (and continue to experience) the fog. I read that nicotine suppresses your appetite, but this is ridiculous. Have been facing my triggers head on (working outside in the yard, at the computer at work, in the car, on the toilet etc….) so far so good. Haven’t tried any of the fake stuff. For some reason I consider that cheating. Reading everyone’s posts is keeping me focused.
JCB, congrats on 10 days free, keep that train rolling!
I just wanted to comment on the “feel like you’re cheating with the fake stuff”. I actually felt the same when I started my quit. I would say, DON’T!
Everyone has there own way of handling the quit…Not just the mind games, but the oral thing us dippers face, long after the mind games stop. I wanted as many tools I could get my hands on, seeds, gum, mints and yes, the fake chews. Those fake chews were a God send to me. I tried quitting in the 90s when the only fake one available was Oregon Mint. I tried that stuff and never tried it again! The ones today are so much better. And sure…You are still prolonging the oral fixation, but it helps you when you want a pinch. I’d say so long there is no nicotine in the fake chew (some companies put nic in their products), add them to the aresanal.
Just my 2 cents. It’s NOT cheating….The goal is to be free of nicotine here.
Good luck!
JP
UPDATE: Now 21 days dip free. In those 21 days, I’ve gained 15 pounds. I’m hungry ALL THE TIME. Still have the intense cravings and the fog is still a major factor. May try the dip substitutes, if for no other reason than to stop eating. Anyone else gain a bunch of weight at the beginning of the quit?
I have lukoplakia i think. 17 hours without a dip
I’m on day 7 and I’m eating like a hog but I’m not dipping.
Try switching to a high protein diet and using fruit smoothies. Thats what did and was able to quit. You can also sweat from exercise which will give you a new euphoria. After day three begin new disciplines that are of interest to your personality and create several in different environments work or leisure. You can also have a way of ridding temper against cravings like a line. I would say “skoal is weak and I am powerful”. My coworker freinds would laugh but that was better because it forced it into public challenge. Tobacco free today!
Ugh I know that horrible feeling. My 3 year old daughter would spit on bike rides or hikes. Huge motivator for me. Starting day 3 here. So tough.
Helpful site. I currently have my last dip in as I write this, just was searching what I should expect. I’ve had this day set for a few months now and hopefully can quit. Been chewing 5 years now. I think the hardest part for me is going to be the triggers because everything I do weather working, playing pond hockey, shovelling the driveway or even just driving somewhere I’ve have a dip in. I know I’m going to miss it but I also know it’s for a greater good. Good luck everyone
Good luck Mike. The grass is greener on the other side of the fog, just stay busy and chew on some seeds. We’re here if you need us
Thanks for the support. It’s easier knowing I’m not the only one
Hey Mike, i am on day 5, and on day 4 i started using the fake stuff because i was eating sunflower seeds by the pound! It helps alot, especially with the cravings and the oral fixation. I have been dipping for 16 years, the first 3 or 4 days were the worst. Good luck!
Thanks Garrett, Day 2 now. I don’t think my teeth have ever been whiter with the amount of gum I’ve chewed the last 2 days. Hasn’t been to bad yet just been trying to keep myself busy. Good luck to you!
I quit 9 years ago…this list and this site is the only thing that ever worked for me. Tried the patch, the gum, the patch and the gum, fake snuff, you name it. All failed. Except somehow knowing what I was going through and being able to prepare for what I was going to go through worked for me.
I’ve officially quit for 3 weeks starting today. At first I was having panic attacks but got away from those after a cardiologist cleared me. Now I have this ringing in my ear. Is this common?
Ear pain / ringing is something we hear about pretty often. Nothing wrong with going to get checked if you’re worried but it’s definitely not the first time it’s been reported.
I’m 4 days in but have a really tense neck, trouble breathing, and a lumb at the top on my throat and 22 dipped for 3 years. Is that normal?
I am three weeks in myself.. I quit Nov 21st 2016.. I have had the same exact symptoms as you. Panic attacks..I walked for 5 miles when I had 1st panic attack. Thought I was having a heart attack..hopefully the panic attack thing has passed for me. I still have ringing in my ears for some reason..been eating very healthy and starting to walk /exercise more..seems to help alot..It’s crazy how much this crap has a hold of you!! im gonna win this battle!
28 hours into nicotine withdrawal and my ears are ringing and my hands are vibrating. Think I’ll drink some mountain dew and play some Xbox
On day 18 and things are beginning to look up. The edginess is gone and my intense cravings seem to go away as fast as they come. I’d say they last 5 to 10mins. I still have a dull yearning that comes into play whenever I’m bored; and i actually think that’s worse then the intense cravings. I keep myself busy as best as I can but it’s difficult especially when you’re having a slow day at work. For the most part though I don’t think about dipping that much anymore until after I eat a big meal…. that craving sucks… that craving sucks a lot…
But for people thinking about quitting just get through the first 2-3 foggy days and you’ll be fine as long as you have good resolve and know in your mind that your done. DO NOT go through this stage if you have something important that you have to do. You are like a zombie that can barely remember how to spell your own name through this stage. I have a lot more to say but I feel like this comment it way to long. If anyone has questions feel free to ask. This is the first time I’ve got to talk about what I’m going through and it’s nice to know that I’m not alone. Stay strong everyone!
Alright, well I failed at quitting. After starting on this site, I made it 2 months before the army sent me to back to back field problems. I got stressed out and caved. I want to quit so bad, I have 2 beautiful kids and I want to make sure I’m there as long as I can be. If anyone can be a “buddy” as im going to call it, it’d be cool to have someone to text when I feel like I can’t keep going. But attempt #3 starts tomorrow. Let’s do it this time, been dipping 5 years now, need to kick this nasty habit.
Couple of things…
1) You’re in the right place looking for “buddies”. There are literally thousands of them here and on our forums – http://forum.killthecan.org/
2) Change your vocabulary. It’s not an “attempt”. An attempt is to “try”. Don’t try to quit. Quit. It’s a subtle difference but mindset can make all the difference. http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/12/change-your-vocabulary/
Sup AAron G I stopped dipping 2 years ago. I am a Marine and I totally understand what you’re going through. Hit me up on facebook. My handle is Dub Kodiak. I understand what kind of buddy you need.
Ill be your buddy AARON G, I need one too. Im on day two and I just wanna bite something really hard! Ive rubbed for 23 years
I know what you’re going through man. This is my second time quitting. It’s tough, I have only found that smokes mountain helped with my urges and oral fixation, because at the end of the day, that’s what it comes to for me, is the oral fixation. Look me up on Facebook if you have it bill, I’m Aaron Lee Green, we can keep in touch more if you’d like!
I would strongly suggest trying a product called Grinds to help quit chewing. I’ve chewed for 25 years and this product helped me to quit. I’ve been tobacco free for 3 years and am so glad I’m not dependent on tobacco anymore.
Well I did it. At 2:05 today, January 2nd I spit out my last dip. I’ve dipped now for 5 years and it needs to stop. Got my Smokey Mountain, got my gum and mints and ready to spend the rest of my life TOBACCO FREE!! 2:05 PM 1/2/17.
Right there with you Nate. Bought two cans of smokey mountain, seeds, and gum. Lots of coffee. Second time quiting. first time lasted a year and half and I slipped for five months. That won’t happen agian. I forgot how hard this is, and rewarding later on.
I’m 24 I’ve had a dip in basically since I was 13 after 11 years and much back and forth about it over decided to quit. So Friday December 30th 2016 at 240pm I spit out my last punch of dip. I didn’t get anything I’m doing this cold turkey. It sucks and I feel like I’m still looking gonna be and the day 1-3 for awhile. I’ve done it for half of my life. But I’ve been strong my fiancee has helped alot. There’s another incentive to have if you’re in a relationship to help you stay motivated to not dip.
I have been tapering using Baccoff and wintergreen cop. I started off with mixing 50/50. Did that for two weeks. Didnt really have any craving. Did become foggy headed and dizzy and have a constant ringing in my ears. Had a difficult time sleeping the first few nights Just dropped down to 75 percent Baccoff and 25 percent cop.. Havent notice any change. Still no craving. Still dizzy with ear ringing. Havent slept well the last few nights. but no anxiety or edginess. I think this way is easier. I was a can a day for 15 years dipper
Todd… where do you get that baccoff? My husband is on day 6 he has beat cancer and now wants to quit chewing. Where we live our small town doesn’t carry it and grinds is aweful he said. Please help
Carmen – if you can’t find BaccOff locally, you can purchase it from their website. You can find links to purchase and reviews here: http://www.killthecan.org/fakedip
I’ve quit for about 36 hours now. At this point Im ready to suck on pine needles soaked in gasoline.
Mark,
that is so funny, good to laugh.This is my first post here,and am thankful to have found it. The posts I have read are quite encouraging.
I’m Ron, I have just started this journey as well. had my last dip Thursday,Dec 29th.So far I have been able to kick it by using the tobaccoless chew,a little too sweet for my liking,but greatful for it.
I am 66, tobacco has been my friend (?) for in some form or another for 50 years.
The last 18 to 20, being smokeless tobacco.
For the past week, have had a bad cold,I figured this would be as good a time as any to get rid of this nasty stuff.
As we grow older,time seems to go by much faster. Sense Thursday,(quit day)
It seems to have came to a crawl. Long ,foggy days lately but I am proud of myself going this long without tobacco,will continue with the help of you all on this site.
This is really going to help all those who are willing to quit tobacco.
say it a trick to fool your mind/body when you quit tobacco.
I would request the author to add this in their blog as well, so that those who wants to quit can do it like a boss š
So, after quitting tobacco, whenever you feel to have it again, put a very small piece of ginger in mouth.
@RAVI, what does Ginger do? I’ve been using Ginseng root. It helps with the low energy/foggy head and oral fixation. But if there is a cheaper solution, I’m all for that.
Ginseng root is ~$12 per dry ounce, so with conscience use, I can usually keep it to ~$40-50 per month.
I’ve been Dip free for 9 days now and I feel great waking up in the morning knowing that I don’t have any dip leaves in my teeth from dipping the night before I used to dip for 5 years all I dipped was Copenhagen Mint. I feel really good that I finally quit cause now I’m going to be able to have some extra money in my pocket
Hello my friends! Day 80 here with zero tobacco. Chewed on and off for the last 6 years or so(am 22 now). Wondering if anyone this far or further into their QUIT has experienced bumps in mouth? From what I’ve read is that it’s pretty typical between the first week to 50 days, but I just started noticing this about a week ago(day 70)
I am not sure if anyone has replied to your question. I had dipped for 32 years and have been quit for close to 240 days. I experience all kinds of bumps and a white fuzzy growth on my gums. Dentist didn’t seem concerned and went away. Still come and go. Not telling you to ignore it, but don’t obsess over it.
Hi Patrick good job! Ive been quit for 20 days. I was a two can a day user for about 35 years. I had foot surgery 21 days ago and Dr told me no tobacco because the bones wont heal. Im on my feet at work all day so if the foot doesnt heal im screwed. Many other reasons to quit so Ill keep plugging away!!!!
Thanks for the response man! Most of mine have gone away. I had an oral exam to make sure everything looked okay. Day 95 today and fog has been present the past few days. Still have this bad dry mouth that keeps coming back, anyone else?