What To Expect When You Quit Dipping
So you want to quit dipping and you would like to know what to expect when you do. We’re not going to pull any punches around here, it’s tough. That’s why we’re all here. This timeline has been put together over the years with the input of THOUSANDS of quitters. It has been shown to be remarkably accurate from the time you STOP USING NICOTINE.
Days 1 through 3 – Pure hell. You will walk in the fog. Nothing will seem real. Your brain is wondering where the hell its fix is and it is going to punish you until you come up with it. 72 hours, that’s all you need to get the nicotine out of your system. This is where you start to deal with the physical withdrawal associated with quitting dip. Drink lots of water. Read, post, read and post. Don’t take your anger out on your loved ones. We always tell everyone………Make this quit about YOU. If you quit for your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, kids, mommy or daddy, you will resent them during this period. Quit for yourself and come in here to rant. Yell at us. Bitch at us. We can take it. We’ve been there.
Days 4 through 20 – Here comes the mind games. The nicotine is out of your system now. You will still have some physical things to deal with.
- Cravings
- Irritability
- Insomnia
- Fatigue
- Inability to Concentrate
- Headache
- Sore throat
- Constipation, gas, stomach pain
- Dry mouth
- Sore tongue and/or gums
Yep, you have this to look forward to. Your brain is rewiring itself. It isn’t used to being in an oxygen rich environment. Your body is responding in kind. Everything is a mind game now. All the cravings you have are actually due to triggers. Triggers are events where you are in a situation you would normally dip in. Mowing the grass, playing poker online, playing golf, working on the car………you get the picture. Keep drinking water, use seeds, the fake stuff, whatever you need to keep the dip out of your mouth. Remember, oral fixation is part of our habit, something you will eventually need to break. For now though, use all the tools you have.
Days 20 – 50 – You’re winning. Life isn’t great, but you probably had a couple of nights where you actually got some sleep. You might notice you’re going to bed earlier than you normally do. Not staying up to get in that last dip. You may notice some sores in your mouth. You’re thinking, “great, I quit dipping and now I have cancer.” You almost certainly don’t. Your mouth is healing itself. Tiny ulcers you’ve had for a long time are healing. We recommend you visit your dentist around the 30 day mark. Don’t be a pansy, just do it. He or she will be very supportive and they can explain the sores much better than we can. Don’t let your guard down. Don’t go out drinking with the fellas or the girls. We also recommend that you don’t drink for at least the first 50 days. Drinking is a huge trigger event and it weakens your resolve.
Days 50 – 70 – Cruise control. Life is really good. You still think about it, but this is good stuff here. Some people may suffer anxiety attacks during or a little before this stage. Some doctors say we dipped to relieve anxiety anyway. Some people can push right through this, others need a little help. Talk to your doctor before you quit or immediately after you quit. They will know what to do. Some give Wellbutrin or Lexapro. Lots of people in the support community take or have taken these medicines and can help you with the affects. Don’t wait till you get to this stage of the game to talk to a doctor. You’ll cruise through this stage much easier if you know how to take care of the anxiety or at least know it’s coming.
Days 70 – 90 – Late term craves, the doldrums, the blahs, the blues. Some people end up feeling like they are right back at day 1. The fog, the haze, the craves. It can be a tough time. You need to let people in your group know this is happening. Time to circle the wagons to get through it. It usually only lasts a few days. Fight through this and make sure your order your HOF Knife or Coin. Here are a couple of articles about this time period which we refer to as “The Funk”
Days 90 – HOF – Houston, resume the countdown. Enjoy the hell out of these last 10 days. You will be celebrating with your group as you all enter the HOF. It is a great feeling and an accomplishment you should not take lightly. Do something special for yourself and your family. They put up with your sorry ass for the last 90 days and they deserve something too.
100+ Days – Stay vigilant. Use the tools you have, to continue beating back any cravings or urges. You will still experience dip dreams and longings, but you are fully qualified to beat them down. Continue to post roll with your group. Get into the newer groups and help somebody out. Pass it along. Live the dream.
That’s hilarious one day D, and what were the bad things you remember about dipping?
Good Posts you quitters! Day 18 for me – still a rookie. One of my little strategies has been to remember the things I hate about dip since the Nic Bitch loves to remind me of all the things I love about dip. Thought it would be fun to continue sharing, in the hopes, it might help keep someone else out there on the ‘straight and narrow’. So today, I had some fond memories of chewing at parties. You know the parties, lots of beer cans/beer bottles on the tables/counters/etc. Lots of the SAME bottles and cans hanging out. Now, most of these identical looking cans were empty. Just hanging out, not causing any trouble. Enjoying the music. A select few of these cloned cans had portions of cold beer in them, just waiting to be chugged by an eager party goer. Questions would abound through the night…”Which one is whose? Is this yours or mine? Hey, where’d you set your beer?” Now, there was yet another group of cans. A very special group of cans, also identical looking, mixed in amongst their can bretheren. This still rarer group of cans were the proud recipient of my spit. How they loved to hang out and serve a greater purpose. They were special. So special in fact, that they would often get to wear the badge of honor of having their tab removed (can) or label removed (bottle). But on very special occasions, they would get to fly stealth – that’s right – they got to perfom their special job without any physical differentiation! How glorious! This is when the party really got going! Nothing better than having one of your friends, or better yet, your wife mistake their can for my ‘special’ covert can. They’d grab that can, thirsty for several ounces of ice cold beer. Up to the mouth it’d go…gulp, gulp….
Man, those were the good ‘ol days!
Stay strong quitters.
No hell no, you aint babbling (jeff) or Rambling(jayP) BTW and Chewie, thanks for your words, thanks for continuing writing, if it hadnt been for your posts I would have gone back to dippin yesterday. I know, I know The Mighty Deepydeedont was brought down to his knees, but I am back strong today. just had to catch my second wind.
I actually challenged dippers that come to this site lurking for info in one of my posts, you remember like most of us when we were thinking about quiting, and I actually got one young man to take the challenge, so I hope he makes it. so because of Joey the newbie and you guys actually saved me yesterday, so therefore, tonight concludes day 66 for me.
Thanks.
We all know the cure for going thru this hell of quitting. Instantly I can, stop the mild anxiety, stop eating ( grazing) all day. Get sleep, feel the surge of joy. All for $5.00 I have a cure. Go buy a can: but, as Deepy has said. It takes a bigger man to quit.
Why go this far and cave? Never! I am not in a group, so I kinda followed ( adopted myself ) to chewie, Deepy, jayp
This was so hard! But each day has proven to me, that I will succeed. Yes, I get craves, so it’s fake chew and carrots for me,,,,
I gained some weight… I don’t care, I started swimming ( SoCal) and running.
I was thinking today, as I have been reading so many posts over the last 51 days, I noticed some quitters only posted once, then disappear… Makes me sad they dint follow thru; I also met with my doctor, they are clueless when it come to us smokeless tobacco quitters , they assume it’s the same as a smoker, and yes there are similar withdrawals, but I feel Copenhagen gave me more nicotine then a smoker..
Sorry for babbling my bro’s.
Jj(Jeff)
….continued….fake dips, they really help you in a pinch! I am using about 4-5 dips a day, I was mailing a can a day early in the quit. So things have definitely slowed down. I have put on the 20 I lost prior to quitting….but this isn’t uncommon for me and the winter season that is beginning to show up in Michigan. The quit is way more important than the weight in my opinion…and I can always drop the pounds. Just have to remember…..as my trainer used to say back in my boxing days (many moons ago) “you can’t out run your fork”….great advice. Just need to shave it off.
Anyway….I am rambling out here, thanks for the kind Words Jeff (JJ), glad my posts are helping you through this battle….yours help all of us too!! Keep up the good fight quitters….you are all WARRIORS!! ~JP
Day 78 almost complete. I am still waiting for that 2nd wave of “funk” described above in what to expect. I “think” I get little patches of rough times, mostly when I think I will never go back to the smokeless tobacco again. Its almost a state of depression and anxiety mixed together. But I won’t cave, I know how hard those first 30-40 days were and how iI do not want to go through that shit ever again. I will say though, these fake mint chews are a blessing. The stuff available today is SO much more effective than the stuff available to me back in the mid 90’s. I think all that was available back then was the Mint Snuff….and I have to be honest with you, that stuff was like sucking on a Lego piece. Awkward feel in your mouth that produced zero spit….not a good alternative. The stuff now days (and all are listed on this site) our wonderful. And all though I will need to cut this completely out someday, for now, they have helped me in my journey. I read a lot of people here are really having some tough times without using anything. I strongly urge these quitters to find one of these herbal “fake”
Deepydee have read all your comments from day 15. I to like u have been chewing a long time loved it wish I could still chew but there is a time to quit everything . Just wanted to say great job and your post are very motivating and positive, I have recently just hit 90 days feel so good about that. The timeline for me held true there were some days that felt like day one but back on track. So to u and everyone here it can be done just mind over matter take care.
One day D, day 65 here.
I absolutely remember those days, its like a copy cat, but I got a better one, check this out:
One time I went down to Mexico in my brand new truck, bad ass bitch, black with KC lights, 6 gears on the floor, tough looking mother and I remember I had my girlfriend at the time with me. I had taken a huge dip right after i filled up the tank and she was asleep during the drive so I just kept driving and didnt want to lower the window to spit so i wouldn’t wake her up, btw, i also didn’t have a spitoon in my brand new truck, hell no.
Anyway, cruised through the border and lucky me, we had to stop for a check up, by this time I had a gigantic bubble of spit, so I remember opening the door to get out and I see the federale’s boot on the ground at the same time I spit on the floor, to this day, I had no idea how in the hell the spit bent the laws of physics and changed direction in mid air, but landed 2 inches away from that freaking shiny ass boot, here is the funny part:
I didn’t know, but after we drove away, my girlfriend at the time busted out laughing and said how in the hell did you miss his boot? I was picturing you in handcuffs and being hauled away to prison for spitting on the mans boots.
Funny now, not too funny at the time.
Day 65
It doesn’t get better, this really sucks, i’ve had a craving all fucking afternoon. I saw this dumb fuck fat fucker taking a huge dip and spitting in a cup today while I was driving and I hate to admit it, but it was a fucking delicious sight, Ugly motherfucker in a beat up truck, to anyone else probably a disgusting scene to see, but to an ex dipper like me it was a really spectacular view, my mouth has been watering and I have been fighting the urge to just go and buy a can. Now I know I am just a piece of shit addicted ex dipper. I wish I could report that I drove by and I didn’t even get tempted, I wish I could say like in other posts I had my head high and felt bad for that person dipping, but no, I felt less than dirt because the craving is still there and seems to be more powerful than ever.
As I am typing this comment, I am wondering if I should share it, as I do not want to discourage the ones that are just starting, but the truth needs to be told, the journey aint easy, even when you get 2 months under your belt.
damn it all to hell, I wish I had never started this fucking shit, this is Hell.
Nah… keep sharing man. I can tell you it DOES get better, but like you, I remember when it felt like it never would. You may be hitting the funk a little early. Keep pushing!!!
https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-1/
https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/explaining-the-funk-part-2/
Day 16…still enjoying yesterday’s little exercise in remembering all the fun things dip brought into our lives…anyone out there ever deal with this one?Throwing one in right before going into the store/home depot/whatever. Can’t find a trash can to spit in anywhere…making the decision to just let it all build up and spit when you get outside. So, you’re basically drowning…hoping like hell to just hurry up and get out of there so you can spit! Sure enough, someone “rudely” comes up to you and asks if you need any help finding anything/how you are doing/etc. You do your best to lift your head up and gurgle your reply, but to no avail..you have to swallow the mother load. Gulp! All that dip juice right in your gut!
Never failed! You could be home alone – dry dip – no juice. Can’t find a place to spit – it goes crazy. LOL. I don’t miss that – do you?
Stay on point quitters…………
Funny one. Yet. ,,, sneezing as your drive and spray Copenhagen on the inside of your windshield. Wow. What a crazy hold on me the nic bitch had!
Great posts by OneDayD and Jeff above. Yup, I too remember falling asleep with that shit in my mouth. In fact…having it in my face worked like a sleeping aid. I would get so tired as that nicotine would soak into my blood stream….just a terrible habit when I look back 77 days ago. I’d wake up and be PISSED I fell asleep with a dip in. And the havoc it wreaked on my interior cheek! What a shitty habit to involve myself in…I am so happy I had the balls to drop the habit and its further in the rear view mirror. Everyone here should be proud of themselves for 1.) Making the choice (or thinking about it) to quit and 2.) Staying strong enough to remain quit.
I love to read everyone’s progress and plan on being here for a long time. Keep up the the fight Quitters!!
Good to hear from you jayp… You and Deepy seem to always have a great insight and the gift of motivation,,, if you just started your quit. Read what these guys went thru over the last few months. You will notice that at first it was he’ll, and now a calmer and helpful brother. Thanks jayp
Jj(Jeff)
Great post Jeff. Day 15 here….here are a few things I remember dealing with – #1 always planning ahead to make sure I NEVER ran out. What a slave I was. Weekends, trips, overnight, office, car, home – always had to know how long I’d be away from ‘access to more’ and would plan accordingly.
I can remember wishing everyone in my house would just go to bed so I could have some ‘alone’ time – just me and my can! Often staying up too late and falling asleep with one in. Sometimes even drooling chew while I slept – WTF!
I don’t miss those days. My car has actually got low on gas since the quit a few times as I’m not at the gas station every other day or so. Also, I’m in bed and asleep early! Granted, I often wake up at 4am now, but that’s another story I suppose will fade. Regardless, It sure is nice not to be a nic bitch all the time. It was dominating my life and choices almost at all times. Where to go and when, when to go to bed (or not go to bed), when to eat (or not to eat), etc etc etc.
The bottom line is the Nic Bitch will wipe everything else out. Here are Her directives: You MUST be with me at all times, you should eat less and use me more, you should sleep less as sleeping is time away from me. Anything that gets in the way of us or doesn’t like us being together should be banished (friends, family, food, sleep, work, kids)or they should just deal with us and keep their mouths shut! There is nothing more important in life than having me with you at all times. We can never be apart. What a psycho huh?
Stay strong and don’t forget what the nic bitch did to you and your life. When she calls you begging to take her back (she’s nuts and will call/stalk you everyday!), you’ll know what to do!
One day
Hang tough dude! Good post!
I never want to forget the first 30 days of my quit. The sweats, no sleep, the fog, I even had the shakes at times: I want to keep those times in front of my memory , so no matte what, I never want to take a dip again; once is enough for me
Don’t give up one day.
Getting closer to 50 days of my quit, reading posts each day helps me continue my quit.
I was thinking this morning of how I felt prior to my quit. This may be just me, but almost each night before I would sleep, which was almost always around midnight, I would have be on full alert: meaning, ac kick on. I would be wide awake from the noise: Car drive down the street, instantly I would be in “alert” mode, which would then put me in a mood for a dip: I was getting up to dip… How wrong is that, then complain all day I didn’t get enough sleep- nic bitch!
Walking up stairs. I would be out if breath::: WTF!
Fast forward to almost day 50
No crazy thoughts or full on alert at night. I sleep early now and love it;
Swimming and walking this morning, I noticed that I am not out of breath so easy;
So. You can quit and really feel better.. I cannot remember feeling this well in yrs:
Yes: quit is hard, I did it cold turkey. You will go thru hell, but you are not alone, just think. Quit today and your first thanksgiving without a dip!!!
Anyhow, just thinking of how I felt Before I quit and now.
Would love to hear other stories.
Jeff
If I ever did anything good on this earth, I hope this is it. I am calling all of yall dippers out
I know a lot of tough people that dip, but it is even tougher to quit the dip and stay quit.
********* Don’t let a tiny little tin can kick your ass, get tougher and “Kill the can” ********* ******************************************************************************************
Now, Who is going to be the first?
Day 60
Two Stinking Months I been off the Shitsky, I am proud..
Dude if you are contemplating quitting?, Do it!!!, Just Do it!! I dare you, I know you all can do it too.
I know you got what it takes,
You know how when you got started Doing this Shit, you felt like a MAN, a tough guy?
Well It takes a Much Bigger Man to Quit. Be that Man, OWN it Fellas, Own that Shit.
Come on Do it!!, and then come back here and tell us all about it, there are a bunch of guys here that will listen to your progress, rants, failures, whatever the Hell you want to talk about. I know they heard it from me, its been 2 Months and I’ve written almost every day.
So What’s your story?
Day 57
I remember when I stumbled upon this page, I had no idea how many people were trying to quit and how many people were already in the process of quitting.
By reading all of these posts I noticed that we all start this habit at different ages and for different reasons, but the main reason why we all are trying to quit seems to be because we become aware of the detriment that tobacco can inflict on our health. Either something has gone wrong with the body or people have read about long time nicotine use somewhere on the Internet or magazines.
In Either case we start thinking about quitting. Some of us actually start the quit. Not so easy aint it? Someone actually told me what I didn’t want to hear once , we were running together and I had to stop and sit down because I was in terrible shape number one and number two, I had not quit using tobacco at that time.
The person was upset because I had to stop running and told me, “you know what it’s wrong and what to do, but you won’t do it. ” Those words stuck in my head for the longest time, but I still could not quit. I would stop for a bit like a lot of people mention in here, but then as soon as I felt strong and better, I’d start all over again.
Here is a trick that I used that may help. The first 3 days of your quit is pure hell so when I got sick as a dog from a bad cold or food poisoning and couldn’t do much but ride it out, that’s when I decided to start my quit.
I already felt like Hell because of the sickness so i thought might as well use those days for my quit, but I must admit, I still wanted to dip, even as I was laying in bed, but i thought to myself I have to get better first so I tricked myself into waiting for it, when I got better I decided to wait a little longer, just another day I said, and another, before I knew it, a week and a half had gone by and so I continued.
I was pretty proud of myself because i was off the snuff for a couple of days, but I noticed instead of feeling better I was in a fog all day long, couldn’t concentrate and just overall in pretty bad shape, I knew it had something to do with the quit, but I did not know it was a normal process until I came to this site and read the article “What to expect when you quit dipping” and sure enough the hellish state i was in, was described in there.
Anyway, that worked for me, but it may not work for you, everyone is different, but IT CAN BE DONE, that’s the main point of this rambling.
Thanks for reading.
Good ramble Deepy,!
I have been dipping off and on for a year. I dipped a lot during the spring and summer but am trying to quit. I stopped for about a week but had a lot of anxiety/panicky feelings which I think is related to the nicotine. I really want to stop but I do not want to feel anxious! How do I get over this? Please help me!
Hi Rob, sorry to hear you’re going thru what us dippers call the “nic-bitch” (anxiety). There is only truly 2 ways to get through it. One and this is probably the safest way, go talk to your doctor and let him/her know what you are doing. He or she can prescribe you something in the short term to get you through the first 35-40 days (thus is how long it took for me to get through it). The second, is the “hard-liner” route, which is what I did, just go through the hell! It will lift after a bit. I am not going to lie…anxiety showed up at my front door 2 years ago, before I quit. I didn’t ask for it, nor did I vote for it, I just had a lot of “worry” going on in my life at that time and it snowballed into anxiety for about 7-9 months. After I got it under control (with prescriptions), I actually started reading a lot on how to combat this new sickness without drugs. I dropped 20 lbs, exercised everyday, running and strength exercise. Ithen weaned myself of the meds, which was pretty tough, since I was on them for over 6 months, but I did it. I have continued to exercise and eat half-ass decent. Then came my 40th bday and it was my quit-date. So I quit….the first 72 hours were bad…..but what really got me was the next 30+ days. A foggy brain , I was certain my anxiety was coming back to haunt me until I read several people here went through it. In fact, most said it was gone after a couple weeks, but for me, dipping for 25+years….it was WELL over 30 days of that shit. But I never went back to the meds, I just dealt with it and spent a lot of time here on this site reading, putting in my 2 cents on posts, encouraging others to keep up the fight. And I had several others offer me offer me encouragement as well….for that I am greatful.
But to give you some advice in meds, don’t be afraid if them to knock off the edge, I have nothing against them, I needed them at a bad time in my life. But you can get through this without them….its all a personal decision. I didn’t use anything but will power and this site to get where I am right now (Day 70). Just know, what you’re feeling, IS normal….you’re brain is trying to punish you for giving up the nicotine. You’ll be fine, but if you’re worried go chat with your doctor….I am not a doctor and don’t pretend to be. Keep up the fight and good luck!!
Hey Rob – anxiety and stress are VERY common. https://www.killthecan.org/anxiety-when-you-quit-dipping-dealing-with-stress/
Nothing wrong with going to see a doctor if your symptoms don’t clear up.
Day 56
Today was spent watching movies, munching and napping. Boring day, but at least got some rest to start the week. In four days it will be 60 days since my last dip. What is the deal with these cravings? I read of people that have a 1000 days quit and they still have cravings, very mild they say, but they still there.
Now here is something ironic that i encountered one time when I purchased a can of crap, as I was paying for it, the distributor guy was there dropping off the shipment, he saw me buying it and I believe he told me something like, Don’t do it, it’s bad for you, I did it for 20 something years and quit 5 years ago or some long time like that. But then he hands me a can of each flavor and says its my job.
How miserable must this guy have been? The Irony was incredible here.
At the time I didn’t think much of it since I walked out of there with 5 or six cans for free, until now 10 or 15 years later, i started thinking about this episode, I guess because I am going through my own quit now.
Day 21 after 20 years. Didn’t see days 15-18 being so tough. My addiction inner narrative screams, “ok, ok, ok already… you proved you can quit whenever you want to… now have a lipper to celebrate and we’ll quit permanently starting next year.”
But I ain’t turning back now. And at the worst times… I just keep looking at my three kids. Good luck to all on this journey.
Stay strongT-maj. I am on day 44. Not looking back!!
Day 55
I am actually associating the number of days to specific important events in my life or just in general.
Today is day 55, that’s the age I am planning on retiring. So its a particularly bad ass day. When it comes, no more putting up with crap, no more waking up at dawn if I don’t want to, no more meetings, no more, well ya’ll know the drill. Anyway, just sharing tidbits to keep my mind occupied. seems to work.
Ok, well, a while back i wrote in a couple of posts that I was extremely pissed because of a job I didn’t get, and that i was trying to reach to a higher power because I was pretty bummed out.
The quit was not making things easier either, but i did not cave in. In Any case, what I am trying to say is that God does listen, he does work in mysterious ways and sometimes if you are blessed, he shows you how he is working on your life.
Now I am writing theology here because it ties with the point I am trying to drive in, if you do not believe in God or are not religious, then you don’t have to read, this is what happened to me and it is my duty to let it be known.
I was at the end of my understanding as to why things were going so bad, even though I was knocking the crap out of this Nasty habit, and was trying to be a good father, husband, son etc. So I basically broke down and asked why these things were happening, I must admit that I was really upset, insignificant me, asking the creator to show me the plans that he had for me, now bear in mind that he doesn’t have to, but he did show me, not that day, but the next day. That day , after I finished my tantrum, I got ready and went to the gym, leaving everything in his hands I said..
Well here is what happened, at work there was an announcement that I was getting a pay increase and was calculated by the amount of money i was getting, now you see if I would have gotten that part time job I would have been over the Maximum amount to qualify for this pay increase to kick in, at that moment that I realized why I didn’t get that job, I realized how He was working in my life, I was so humbled, I felt so bad because just the day before, ignorant, disrespectful me, was upset because of the bad things happening in my life without knowing what was happening and why.
I hope you guys get the immense message of those words. I remember one of you guys replied to one of my rants and said, “He does listen” Well, you sir have incredible amount of wisdom. The proof was shown to me and it increased my faith and my courage to continue staying Quit.
The way i see it, is like this: the money is ok, but the fact that he Showed me how he was working in my life, that, my fellow quitters is greater than anything else. I couldn’t wait to come here and tell you guys all about it. He knows the struggles we are going through on something that we brought to ourselves, unnecessary bad habit that thanks to him we did not seriously sickened our bodies to Cancer or other diseases, we do not deserve to be rescued, but he is bigger than all of us and anything that tempt us and might try to destroy us. We made the decision to Quit and he sees that, and in some cases he rewards us with things that we don’t even know are good for us, even if at the moment, they seem to be bad for us.
I don’t want to leave you guys without saying thanks, for some of you have told me that I inspired and kept you strong to continue ya’lls quit, hell I was even called a Superhero, never been called that, so your support and most important with His help I managed to stay quit and If I ever did anything good in this life I hope this is one of them, to help others to stay quit.
Stay tuned….. there is more to come. Stay Strong guys.
Thank you for reading…..
http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/08/mind-dump/
@Jeff…never thought of myself as a super hero, thanks for the kind words. I think the row call keeps the people honest who need the daily reminders. Not saying I’m tougher than the average bear, just never could figure out how to do it from my mobile device. I don’t always have access to a “good” CPU, which makes things much easier. I have my pile of shit PC in the basement, but its time to upgrade that thing. This phone works faster than that POS! And I am suppose to be “working” at the office, so, this is my time to post. Anyway…getting wayyy off subject.
I have a Mint Triumph, Zero Strength, No Tobacco and No Nicotine herbal dip in….pretty good stuff. I am now down to about 3 of these fake dips a day…I am now about to finish day 66. The BEST advice I can give to the noobies…keep up the fight, it does get easier. And for those of you who cannot get by without a dip….find yourself a fake one you like, there are several good alternatives available today….and they work, even as a placebo (making your brain “think” you’re getting the nicotine).I remember feeling like hell wayyy past the 72 hours…but it does lift and you will feel normal again….promise. this coming from someone who thought it wouldn’t ever end…..it did!!
Day 66 for me today. I admit, I have come a long way and this website has helped me a great deal. I have spoken to a lot of dippers that want to quit, but just haven’t found the help to get going. I want to thank Chewie in particular from the start. He’s the one that welcomed me here and I have became friends with him out on other social media. I want to also thank all of you that have been brave enough to put down the can and begin the journey of freedom. Dippy has shared a lot of great stories and also has made me laugh in some of his storeies. I feel everyones pain out here, quitting isn’t easy, but its been well worth it to me and am grateful this site exists so we can all rant and bitch about what’s buggin us on the journey. I tell people about this site and tell them its like an Alcohol Anonymous meeting for dippers….and it kind of is (although I have never been in a AA meeting, but imagine its similar). I have became a member here, but haven’t ever did row call…I sort of wished I did get with Chewie and figured out how to do that….but I am now 34 days away from that 100 mark and I know I will get there and beyond. Life is great once you get past the first 30-40 days. Keep up the fight and we’ll keep everyone posted. And I cannot thank you all enough for sharing your fight!! JP
I never found a way to do roll call…jayp. Deep. Super heroes!
Yes Indeed, as a matter of fact, there is one follower that posted a comment on my quit4today WIKI. Thanks Chewie.
BTW folks here is the link to my Site…..
http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/08/mind-dump/
Awesome Jeff, Keep it up.
I’ve taken a little break from posting since nothing really exciting worth writing was happening. it’s been 4 days since my last post so there are some awesome things that happened yesterday, right now I am at work, but stay tuned. This Evening I will post an update on my quit.
Thanks for Reading….And Keep up the good Work fellows.
Awesome. Can’t wait to hear your update! Are you going to be adding a new blog post to http://www.quit4today.com as well?
Day 36 for me! Copenhagen was my addiction. My quit has been a bitch. I am 52 and chewed like a crazy man for the last 10 years. I had massive sweats for the first 3 weeks. The fog… Wow. That was crazy. 30 days of fog. Sleep.. Starting to get a full night sleep. Gained 7 pounds, I even get the shakes.. But. I will never ever go back to Copenhagen… I read posts each night and it helps allot,,,
Awesome job, Jeff. The “fog”… words fall short unless you are in our quit community and know first-hand. I tried to explain once or twice to my wife and older brother but non-chewers just don’t comprehend the sheer power of this physical addiction. Anyway, I do… so keep it up the good fight and good luck moving forward.
Day 50.
I did it, I freaking did it. I made it to halfway of the HOF. And according to the timeline at the beginning of this forum it says that I am on cruise control and to wait for the joys of Anxiety attacks if they have not happened already. Well I don’t think I’ve had anxiety attacks, but plenty of reminders that its time to Dip again.
I am pretty proud of myself at this point though.
1. I actually had a few Brews and managed to keep the craving under control, I may have felt it maybe 2 or 3 times during the evening, but I did not cave in.
2. I actually went in to a gas station for the second time in a long time and there they were(Tobacco cans) behind the counter, once again looking all shiny and almost winking at me. Strange, weird feeling as though as if you see a super hot girlfriend that you broke it off with, and you ask yourself why in the hell did I let her go?, then you remember oh yeah, she was a biatch.
The same thoughts raced through my head looking at those cans (no pun intended) at the store and thought to myself, I left you cause you nearly destroyed me, because you contributed to nothing positive in my life, because you are high maintenance, just a plain ol Biatch. Anyway I paid for my stuff and got out of there, again, I did not cave in.
Thanks for reading
Good job Deep, I have followed your quit since I quit…. U have silently motivated me
Day 38
Hey guys i’m on day 24 i think and i’m a student at purdue trying to get into engineering, spring last year was my first semester and i needed to take calculus chemistry and a general elective and maintain a 3.2 gpa and i finished it out with a 3.55 gpa A- calculus A chemistry B- in general class who cares, however what my counselor did not tell me is that i needed to attend a CODO meeting some meeting where someone acknowledges you wan2 join engineering. So this is my 2nd semester and i signed up for a meeting that was today at 4p.m. I have a class that is 330-420, and we have an exam coming up on thursday with material that is still being presented in our current lectures so i stayed till 355 snuck out the back and rushed to the meeting, however when i walked in the room the guy in charge or whatever said i have to leave because i’m late, and i said exactly what i am saying now he basically told me to take a shovel and shove it up my asshole, and i don’t know if it’s because i quit but i honestly feel i have never been more mad than at that moment i mean all i can think about his hitting his head with blunt objects until i physically beat his head off his body.
Shit day 17 here. Quit cold turkey after 16 years. Today is a ruff day
Hang in there Jon – you’re right on track. Have you joined our forum yet? http://forum.killthecan.org/ – it’s the best place on the web for support with nearly 21,000 members!
Hang in there, Jon… I know how bad it sucks.
Day 48
I am fully convinced there is something or someone not of this world trying to destroy the good work i have started, if it sounds too weird then call it, bad luck, coincidence, karma, whatever the hell you want to call it, but some shit is happening, and it comes all at once seems like.
First, I mentioned a job that i didn’t get.
Second, a death in the family.
Third, another family member admitted to a hospital in bad shape.
Fourth, straining family relationship due to all the hardship.
Fifth, of course financial issues like everyone else.
Did I mention that all of these things except for the first one happened in 2 days, 2 days apart.
Does anyone else have something like this going on or it is just me,? it seems like in the past, things would come up like they always do, and i resolved them and moved on.
I am trying to do something good here and I know it kind of sounds crazy, but it just seems as though it is being done on purpose to me, it is true when the say that cliche, “you can’t make this stuff up”. Days of our life or As the world turn soap writers could not have imagined these things for their shows.
Though I am going through hell, I still have not dipped, not because I am such a superhuman man or I am such a tough guy with such a great character and power of assertiveness as i heard people in here, but just simply because i choose not to do it. it is said easily, but living it seems to be a daunting task.
Perhaps it is time to once again, turn to the the only one that can help me?. This part of my life I am walking through reminds me of the psalm that says:
“Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me”.
All of these bad things for sure would have led me to use tremendous amounts of tobacco, would it had helped if i dipped? absolutely not, but the craving would have been satisfied.
I am rambling now, I think I made my point. things are not good for me right now and want to ask him for help.
thanks for listening (reading)
I’m sorry for the hard times you are going through Deep, and I am sure that he is listening. Ask him to help you remain strong despite the stressors of your life. You are 100% correct when you say that throwing in a chew won’t help you get through tough times. I’m in no position to give you advice as I’m only on day 18 and to get to 48 days like you seems like an impossible journey. You should be proud of what you have accomplished, and know that you are not alone in the struggle. God Bless
Day 14, after 20 years. The fact that I have quit no longer dominates my every thought. Sometimes a few hours can go by where my quit doesn’t even come to mind. Seems like a big step.
Also, I let a few members of my family know just yesterday (I decided to keep it to myself until I had a few days behind me). My mom and wife started to cry. Pretty cool moment.
That’s awesome T-Maj!!! I’m at day 18 and kinda feeling the same way. I still think about having one often, but once in a while if I stay busy I forget all about it! I’m sure your family will appreciate having you around longer! Let’s keep it goin brudda!
thanks pal…
Day 47
Good Job JayP, I am glad you are at that level already where you are thinking it is the end for that vice.
For me, between the daily cravings,( although I must say they have gone weaker for the most part, but there are times when they all seem to bunch up together and come back as one powerful one); rage and daily frustrations as a result of the quit sometimes bring me to my knees metaphorically in my quit.
I am going to be honest and say that sometimes I don’t think I am so sure about this quit anymore, I know the facts, I lived the symptoms and I’ve gone a few days without doing it, but I still think to myself in order to subdue some cravings that when I reach a certain amount of days, i am going to go back to this disgusting poison.
I cannot believe that I think like that, and the reason why I say that I am not sure about this quit is because I Don’t know if am thinking it just so the craving will go away or If I am really going to do it. (I know what goes here….You have to want it, Don’t be a this or that, be a man, step up, etc. all these neat sounding catch phrases, but the fact remains, it is a choice nevertheless, a bad one and I know it, but it is a choice.
This is the reason why I ask the older quit brothers to see if the cravings go away, and you guys say yes, but it takes time.
I guess I did choose the wrong way of thinking for subduing these cravings and should choose other thoughts or activities, but I am running out of ideas, I can’t wait until I don’t think about these ideas and the cravings are no longer there.
It seems that this project is absorbing all my energy, focus and time just to stay afloat and not succumb to the cravings. I want to be free already, I wish there was a giant On/OFF switch somewhere where I could just turn it off and lock down the switch so it could never be turned on again, but I know there isn’t.
And so I have to be patient, I know I have to be patient and wait day by day winning battles against it, sometimes I just want to blow some steam like today and so here I am chiming the same bell, harping the same harp about this quit.
It took 29 years of my life to set in and take over completely, I guess a little patience is needed to reverse this old way of life.
Hey Dippy, I don’t think the cravings ever go away. I still have them…I know guys I dipped with back in High School that quit long before me, still tell me “I still think about dipping all the time” or “when I turn 70, I’m gonna start dipping again”. All of which is non sense in my opinion., Why would one want to start a habit like that again, after being away from it that long? I guess it just makes a quitter more comfortable knowing that “some day, I will get to do that again”. I was honestly 10 years old when my Grandpa (God rest his soul, loved that man) gave me my first dip when we were fishing. I took my last one (mixed with fake) on July 15th and haven’t had any since July 16th. My 40th bday was the 14th….I have had tobacco in my life for nearly 30 years….enough is enough. When I asked my myself the question “have you done anything else that long?”. It brought me to realization it was time for a change. Those were my reasons, everyone has their own motives to drop the habit, mine, honestly, was being tired of being “cuffed” to it. But to get back to the cravings….you ask anyone out here, I bet they all say they have them still, no matter where they are in their quit. But I think they just become a softer voice yelling across the canyon we quitters have to cross be free from this vice.
You’re doing great…and I certainly appreciate reading your posts. Its nice to know we’re all in this shit together. Keep up the fight!! JP
Day 56 for me Dippy. And I have to admit, things have gotten much easier in this phase. I don’t feel the fog anymore, those “brain zaps” as I call them have almost diminished completely (except when I am running??) and that anxiety and anger has lightened up too. Its funny when you look back and reflect on how much has changed in 56 days. Everyone around me that knew I had chewed for all those years are offering their praise when they found out I quit….others that knew I quit are amazed its been 56 days! 44 more to reach the 100 that this site makes a monument…I see no point in turning back now….my tobacco days just get further and further in the rear view mirror….and I’m fine with it. A quick funny story, yesterday when I was taking a shower, I felt a small feeling of depression flow over me when I thought “you will never be able to take a chew again”…then I said to myself “you had that shit in your mouth for 25+years, there is no need to be sucking on the battery acid any more, you don’t need that shit, its over”. Suddenly, that feeling went down the drain with the water! Its true, I don’t need that shit anymore. Its a great feeling when you are able to SQUASH those feelings when they decide to raise their ugly heads. I am fine (minus the 15 lbs I’ve gained, even with exercising!) without the tobacco…life truly is better without it and I never thought I would say that after dipping for almost my entire life. You stay strong, you are not that far behind me on this marathon to 100 and beyond, and me and the others here will be there at the 100 mark to cheer you beyond. Take care and keep up the fight!
crazy huh? I was just reading back on these things and now I am on day 67. thanks bud, I know I don’t know you, but its cool to know we are all getting better.
45 days of freedom that comes at a price, not monetary, but fines in Anxiety, restlessness, crappy attitude and RAGE. Such is the sweetness of a Nasty habit that is putting up a fight in the mind and possibly the soul by refusing to die. What is new? nothing really, just living one day at a time. in five days I will be in the phase of cruise control it says and life is supposed to get easier, I hope so cause I need a little break, then it says it supposed to get bad again and so on, for the first time in my life, I wish I had never started doing this garbage.
Day 7, after twenty years (1.25 cans/day) Fog lifted. Remains difficult to manage bursts of irrational anger.
I quit about 9 days ago. I honestly lost count how many times I said I was going to quit and didn’t. I have experienced the majority of the symptoms everyone else has mentioned. There is one that I’m curious about. Every morning when I wake up my mouth feels like it shed a layer of skin. Is that normal?
Definitely. My mouth didn’t feel “normal” for a good 6 weeks or so. Hang in there and welcome! Congrats on double digits!
Day 39
Well, I can’t seem to stop eating so the after meal craving cannot be avoided. My theory was to find the triggers and confront them, dominate them and destroy them. This is one trigger I cannot avoid and it continues everyday, it doesn’t seem to be backing down either. It is strange that I speak of this nemesis as if it were something alive outside of me, where as without me, this thought would not exist.
So I am locking horns with myself and a weird thought that seems to come and go at will, without my help and obeys a law of habit mainly.
So how do you destroy habits, maybe by doing other things long enough so your brain can form a different routine?
People here write that the cravings come and go in intervals, I wonder if anyone else’s trigger happens after a meal?
Does the trigger go away after a while? So far my research has taken 39 days and I am reaching to other folks that have quit longer.
After meal time was a HUGE trigger for me. The good news is that eventually, that too goes away. You’re doing great my man. Keep writing and asking questions!
Hey Dipee, same with me, that “after a meal” crave is a bitch! Even at Day 51 for me, I still have them. My hopes….as Chewie has mentioned, they go away in time. I think all of the craves and “extra” habits do. I get the same “after workout” triggers as you too. And the “right when you wake up” trigger was terrible too. Driving as well. The morning and after workout ones have softened. The driving one had been replaced with sunflower seeds….but that after meal one is still strong. Keep on writing, I know it helps some with the fight, but also, others enjoy reading about the same struggles they are facing. Keep up the fight!!
Day 38
Nothing exciting to report for yesterday, just went to work, worked out like a beast at the gym and ate like a freaking bear after work out, I must have had like 2 pounds of chicken if not more along with vegetables and Quinoa. I noticed that when you stop doing the snuff crap, your apetite increases, at least mine did, so I am on the wolverine diet and work out like crazy too so i won’t get fat. Hopefully after things stabilize I won’t have to work out so hard and eat like an animal. Anyway, that’s how boring my day was, but I managed to stay off the booze and spit so far.
Day 37
Yesterday was day 37, I did not have access to my gear, but just as well. did not have much to report. Only that I had a long lasting crave and it went away, crazy how you think you got this thing whipped and then it gets you again. Shiva and Jayp offered their advise on what to expect, well, there is nothing like experience learned in your own skin aint it? thanks for your replies. I thought I was all alone out here.
Anyway. starting day 38, lets see what happens today.
I had been an heavy snuser (loser )last couple of years. Picked up this habbit when i moved to scandinavia.. Beautiful yet depressing part of world.
Most people here do snus as part of life , but not for this Indian guy who thought it was cool to snus.
At my peak, i did one box of thunder icemint( 16mg per sachet * 20 = 320mg can a day)
Currently on 26th day bring cold turkey and going strong . Never knew that nicotine can bring someone to his knees and make his life miserable.
Hoping to keep it strong with quit and waiting to see brighter side of being nicotine free in next few months!!
Thanks to everyone for their experiences and motivation to fight this beast within
– vinay ,
stockholm
Good luck Vinay and try to hit 100 day mark. Till then you might have some oscillating experience but after 3 months things will be very bright. At my peak, I was pack a day smoker + a heavy dipper and my initial days (around 70-75 days) were horrible. Things are a lot better now 🙂
Hey Dippy,
Congrats on your progress. This is that time when you feel you have kicked it out but all of a sudden you are hit by cravings one after the other. This is your memory and nothing physical (though what happens in your mind can actually make it look physical/real). This usually lasts for about a week and you’ll again start feeling comfortable may be for another couple of weeks before this phase comes again. The roller-coaster usually goes on for about 3 months before the evil is diminished by a big margin. This is also the time when you try to rationalize your addiction with irrational thoughts. Don’t give in. Life will be much beautiful once you cross this. We all are different and you may experience a slightly different experience than what I’ve described above.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Shiva
Day 36
Lazy day today, no bbq, no working out, just hung out and wasted a day. I had to drive for about 25 minutes and that was how long a craving lasted back and forth, it would start, I’d try to ignore it, would go away and then come up again. This was the longest craving I’ve had since I quit over a month ago.
i had to pull over and get some gas, after i pumped the gas and opened the door to get back in the vehicle, I noticed that a can of snuff has slid from underneath the seat.
I saw it and picked it up. Instead of throwing it away, I held it, looked at it, it felt about three quarters full. I figured it would be dried up since it has been at least a month that this thing has been hiding under the seat.
I opened it, i saw it, it was there, still moist about three quarters full, I aint gonna lie, the thought did cross my mind to just get some and enjoy this garbage. Who is going to know? Who cares? what is the big deal? aren’t you a man? aren’t you a grown up? how bad can it be? no one has to know. I felt all alone as if i was squaring off with the bad guy in the middle of the street like in the old west. it may sound comical now, but the thought was real, I got tempted and I DID NOT do it.
I answered all the questions afterwards in my brain, even if no one knows or finds out I was thinking, I would Know and after all, it is me going through this battle, I cannot fool myself.
On previous posts I expressed that the cravings were few and spread apart, so I thought i was beating this thing, after today, however, I am wondering if the cravings will ever stop or do they come up with more intensity at any time, no matter how many days or months you are quit?
Does anyone care to share their wisdom of their quit? Has this happened to anyone else? or is it different for everyone else.?
Hi DippyDeeDont,
Day 48 for me today. I have read a few of your posts and have chuckled at some of the things you’ve wrote, since I too have gone through the same. The triggers…..yep,still have those, but will admit, they have slowed quite a bit. Even though i have quit cold turkey from the tobacco and nicotine, I will admit to using the fake dips available out there. I am in the same school as the author of this page, I would MUCH rather dip a whole can of this fake stuff, all the days of my life, than go back to the can of cancer that plagued me for almost my entire life. Those craves have slowed down a lot. For example, I used to pop a chew in the minute I opened my eyes in the morning. Now, it might be a fake dip, an hour after I wake. I used to need a dip when driving….I usually use sunflower seeds now. I dipped all day at my office, I now use gum or the seeds. That’s not to say I do not pop a fake one in when I feel the need, because I still do in all the above instances when I feel “I need it”….but I usually make myself “squirm” before caving in. And those triggers and “wants” are starting to become far and few. Realistically, there is no way I could of made it this far without all these GOOD alternatives. I quit 17 years ago for the longest I had ever gone since starting, I made it 6 months. But I was too weak when on a fishing trip and surrounded by dippers. NOW, with all these alternatives around, there isn’t really reason for me to ever go back to the poison. I’ve found a few different brands that give me what I need to get by when the craves slam me. I know the fake stuff is a crutch and will need to be dealt with in the future. But it is no where near the habit the tobacco was. I used to chew a can or even more a day, now its 4-5 dips a day….hardly the same frequency!
But that is where I am and how I have been dealing with my craves. I do have a full can of Skoal Wintergreen Long cut here with my fake stuff. I never open it, I just look at it every tine in grab a can of my fake stuff, to remind me of how far I’ve came and I don’t plan to ever go back!! I hope the quit continues to be a success for you, keep up the fight!! JP
Starting Day 1 right now. I have been dipping all day everyday for the past 15 years. I joined the military and had to quite for 14 weeks. You would think anyone thats smart would have left it there lol. But not I. I started the very next day again. I am at a point in my life where it is costing to much money and grief to maintain this habit. Not to mention whatever physical harm i am causing to my body. Im sure you will be hearing from me again through this process.
Day 35
Interesting day of discovery today.
As I head out to the gym this afternoon, I notice a big, dry cud of snuff on the floor that someone threw out there. Now as you may or may not have read my previous post I had mentioned that I would be keeping track of triggers that come up and also try to confront those triggers and see if I can overcome them permanently. Well, perhaps this situation was not a daily trigger and maybe just a coincidence that I saw the tobacco on the floor, but nevertheless, it brought the anxiety and impulse to purchase some and put it in my lip ( you know the drill), so I started counting the seconds to see how long that crave would last, I believe I counted until 10 or 15 seconds until new thoughts came into my mind and I started fuzzying about something else.
After the workout however, I did not experience the craving, so it has been a couple of days of crave or trigger free after working working out. I know this because at the time I do not think about it, rather i remember much much later that I was supposed to be looking out for it, you see how it works?
You just live life and not worry about the dipping, that is how I want to work on the other triggers I mentioned in previous posts.
Now, here is the weird part (for lack of a better term) that happened today and in my research.
I did not experience the crave after working out, but i DID EXPERIENCE IT BEFORE IT, now that may have been a coincidence because I saw the tobacco on the ground, but here is another trigger that I had not experienced before and it started today. As I am walking out the door, I feel a craving come up, I try to understand why and I remembered that in the past I would go outside to sneak in a dip, so the turning of the knob and the noise that door makes must have triggered it. What is worth noting is that I never had that craving before, and I am wondering if, as I destroy one craving, does another one come up using a different daily event?
I hope not, that would be the equivalent of a living re-routing, re-programmable, mutating computer virus, but happening in our brains, triggering dipping cravings using different daily events as others are no longer used.
If this is correct, we may have a huge battle in front of us and may agree with some folks in here that say we may be addicts for life. I sure hope not, so I need to keep track of these things more accurately.
Well, until next time folks, stay strong, all we can do is not do it
I wake up with a dip can in my hand dip before I eat eat then dip dip dip all day I work at night they don’t allow me to dip but I do then when I get off work I start drinking an dipping its not a good thing an I have to have my teeth worked on because of my habit but hey that’s all it is an habits can be kicked an I’m bout to kick the shit. Out of this one cause I’m sick of it we all got to stay strong an remember it’s our fault we started. )but we can end it he’ll were men right
Day 34
Well, lets see, today I woke up early and headed to the gym, I actually broke my own record in bench press, i was pretty proud of myself actually, in any case as i started writing my post I realized that my theory of confronting triggers is actually working.
It wasn’t until the moment that I started writing that I realized that there was no trigger of dipping after my workout, whereas before as soon as I would leave the gym, I would start thinking about dipping, I would get the can and pop a generous amount in my lip and enjoy this poison, well, not today, lets see if it happens again tomorrow, as I am gonna go to the gym again since Monday will be labor day and the gym will be closed.
A stronger trigger for me occurs after lunch, especially after a nice Steak for lunch as I mentioned in another post, well I did not have steak today, but I had a nice hearty meal and felt the craving afterwards, i learned to recognize it and deal with it. I say something like “there it is, there is the craving, at this point I would be reaching for the can” as I think these thoughts, time seems to slow down, but I know that chronological time must be about 5-10 seconds of the craving as opposed to entire minutes as in the beginning. As the reader can easily recognize that for me it would be impossible to hide or avoid this particular trigger, so therefore the need to deal with it, confront it and destroy it completely is a daily battle.
If i am able to overcome this trigger, i think I can win the battle since the other triggers do not happen as often as this one.
Perhaps I am on to something here, I am aware of scientific studies about nicotine dependence cessation, but made from a second point of view, not from a first point of view.
So Far I know that the nicotine dependence stops its physical craving after three days and a week at the most, the rest of the time mentioned in some places refer to a period of readjustment for the body. The psychological dependence lasts much longer and some say that it stays with you for the rest of your life, That is what I am trying to target on. To destroy the triggers by exposing them, recognizing them and confronting them head on, multiple times and see if the chain or programmed impulse can be dispersed, eradicated or somehow redirected to another response rather than nicotine cravings.
I hope I didn’t bore you guys with my mumbo jumbo, but this writing helps me to focus and continue with my quit, as I said in the beginning, I am writing for My Health.
Click on this link if you want to read my other posts.
http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/08/mind-dump/
Day 34
Thanks ReDDeem, I was wondering if anyone was reading my posts. I have been posting since my second week of my quit I believe. Also Thanks to Chewie, he extended his help and reach out to me when I was a neewbie.
I did want to comment on a previous post about our messages getting deleted from the Blog, I actually felt the same rage as the person posting about it, but was lucky enough to stumble back into the site and do a search on my own post, only to find it sitting in a queue waiting for the moderator. If I hadn’t done that search, I guess I would have fled this site as well.I hope he comes back and continues the quit with the rest of us, oh and the rage as well, we all have those days don’t we? but In my case now, I get mad as hell, but to the can only!! Stay strong fellas.
so i can’t comment cus my name is inappropriate? i mean that’s what i’m assuming as to why my comment got deleted immediately fuck you guys and ur gay ass website
Nope… it didn’t get deleted. It was in the queue to be reviewed. Feel free to read next time before you flame.
Welcome to the rage of quitting dip.
Lol, Yup….that there is some quit rage…been there, hopefully it pushes him into the quit (the suck) further.
I’m 25 and i think i started dipping at 20, i’ve gone 7 days now with nothing and i tried before but this time i really don’t see anything stopping me cus i just think about it and even already the damage i’ve done to my gums scares the fuck out of me sometimes right after i take a dip out i’ll grit my teeth and it really feels like my teeth are just sliding around so i don’t know maybe my teeth will start falling out when i’m 30 but i’m done for good
Day 33.
Seems like whenever there is a problem, other problems come at the same time, almost as though someone or something is there to bring it upon you. Trashing you, destroying you, bringing you down to your knees, forcing you to abandon your good deeds. I been getting my share and for some reason I remained strong on the quit, maybe it is this site, maybe it is me who knows, but I do know that things are not going good for me lately. King Solomon said “This too shall pass” how true that is. The bad thing about it is that it also applies to the good times.
They say that nothing stays the same forever, everything changes, the only thing that remains constant is change itself, I read that somewhere, I cannot take credit for that thought. Now if this is true, chances are that our quit will change, when? we don’t know, the only thing that will prevent us from getting back into this habit is to destroy the thought of the habit.
How can we do this?, well it will take time and strong will. I read that we should avoid the triggers, well we can only do that for so long, but it is hard not to run into these triggers because in my case for example I would dip all the time, so everything really triggers the dipping.
In my case, I have walked into the triggers and faced them a couple of times. After a few times of doing it, the triggers fade out, they don’t dissapear completely but they are weaker. Again this is what I am doing for myself, if you think you will not be able to handle it, then DO NOT do it. For example Drinking, I actually have had a few beers and felt the dip trigger come on, it passed and then it became weaker. (perhaps this is a bad example, I am not encouraging anyone to drink, but this is listed as one of strongest triggers everywhere I been reading)
Another example is when I have a good steak lunch, the craving for a dip is immediately afterwards, well I like my steak and so I aint gonna let this habit destroy my carnivore experience. the triggers, again have become very weak and almost non existent.
I do not hunt or play video games, but I do work out and I would dip right after a work out, well guess what? I have continued working out and the craving is gone.
I had to wait almost a month before I started this experiment on myself, it may or it may not work for you, but I think that instead of avoiding situations or activities that trigger the dipping, I want to face them, again and again, until the trigger mechanism gets destroyed if there is such a thing, that may be the solution to not being addicted for life, rather living life normally as though if this bad habit was something as a bad relationship, with a bad breakup that happened in the past and you may think about it sometimes, but it is in the past and it doesn’t hurt you no more. Perhaps that is a bad analogy, but I hope you get my theory.
The same principle is used curing fears such as fear of flying or fear of heights, why not try it on quitting tobacco. Again this is only my theory, I will keep posting to see if it indeed has worked for me, so far it has.
http://www.quit4today.com/blog/2014/08/mind-dump/
Good post.
I just recently started back smoking, (my biggest dip trigger) and have tonight, begun my quit again.
I agree. Seems like once you start one challenge multiple ones are added on. And you just have to let go and know you are strong, know you have help, and that you can beat any of them. Weird coincidence, (but I don’t think it was a coincidence) I was just reading quotes from Solomon today too. And I have not read the Bible in many months, just happen to read a interpretation of one of his passages. Very unexpected to find someone else mentioning him today. Wise man.
Thanks for post.
Am I reading this correct that smoking is your biggest dip trigger? I was never a smoker, but I spose that makes sense as nicotine (in one form) WOULD be a trigger to nicotine in another form. When you say you’re quitting again – are you quitting both smoking and dipping?
33 Days, I made it to one full month
Bravo sir!!!